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From: Angel
Date: 1 September 1999

angel~ "waiting", very nice , angel...from one Angel to another :-)...are you the same angel who posted "Happening?" I really liked that one alot.

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 1 September 1999

I live in South Georgia and let me tell you...it has been ONE HOT SUMMER...felt a little nip in the air this morning while putting Brandi on the bus...Ahhh Fall is nearing...my favorite time of the year...or 'favourite' as some of you blokes and Kiwis would say *SMILE*

Angel


From: kristi
Date: 1 September 1999

DEB-
You are very talented, I've enjoyed reading your poetry, I really enjoyed the TATTOO poem, it made me giggle because I too, have a rose tattoo in the same place. Keep up the beautiful work, I'm looking forward to seeing more of your poems.


From: kristi
Date: 1 September 1999

DEB
In YES HE DOES, very witty, sharp, it cuts like a knife. Did you and Sct write it together? Or did you add on?


From: Pleasantly Anonymous
Date: 1 September 1999

Cyrstevin - I must tell you I was moved to tears by your last piece. Not one to comment very often, I felt compelled to write about "gemini". Being a Gemini myself, I struggle as my twins constantly battle for dominance, one over the other. A cross to bear, and something that few others can truly understand (do they try?). But then, miraculously, there comes along another, a kindred soul, an Angel come down from Heaven, who listens and opens her heart, and makes my load a little lighter. She's my muse, my inspiration, my only need and desire!! Others say were crazy, two Gemini together, you'll never make it, but I've never been one to care too much for what others thought of me. Love me for me! Passion is my flame! And with her, it burns like the sun! As you said, "crazy is the soul that joins with mine". All I can say is I tried to warn her. Peace.


From: Pleasantly Anonymous
Date: 1 September 1999

Crystevin - please forgive me for misspelling your name! So sorry about that!


From: Angel
Date: 1 September 1999

Crystevin~ Way to GOOOOOO!!!! "Gemini", me tooooooo! Alot of Geminis abound here...no wonder I'm so happy here :-) I love all you Virgos and Sags and Pisces and everybody else tooo *wink* But something special about us twins *BIG SMILE*...I is one, Sympathi is one, Anonymous is one, and now I learn you are too, Crystevin...actually Sympathi and I not only share Gemininess, but the exact same Birthday, June 3rd...small world...slam full of love *SMILE*

Angel


From: Jlor jlorenz@saber.net
Date: 1 September 1999

I have had a fair number of comments on my piece "What's
Wrong with this Picture? And Dee commented that she was
having a hard time not taking this personally, so I feel
compelled to try to clear the air and state first, unequivocally, that I didn't mean it to make the women on site feel bad by what I said. I (and apprarently Riggs feels this too) was expressing my own frustration over the unfairness of this phenomenon to us guys who LOVE women and
WANT to treat them NICELY. I didn't aim these remarks
at individuals and I'm sorry I made people feel personally accused. I have read pieces on site and don't see people
here who cold bloodedly try to be unfair. Besides, who am I?
I'm not perfect as can be seen by some terribly nasty sentiments in some of my pieces where I TOO felt personally outraged. I saw my own faults as a by product of lessons learned here and definitely feel a pinprick over things written by others on this site because I think I fit the thing they are talking about in their poem. I saw a lot I didn't like about myself too. But maybe we are our own
worst critics and our consciences TOO easily accuse us
of things we're not guilty of. I haven't noticed anyone on this site declaiming how rotten men treat them, but I do
see a great deal of this complaining among women I've worked with in the general public. I hear a lot of it there. But I didn't mean to hurt feelings here. I now see I should have been less inclusive of "most" or "many" women. I should have said 'some' or 'more than a few' or something not so generalized. I believe I did state on the comments page that a number of women DO NOT fit this type, any more than ALL men fit the "All he wants is sex" stereotype.
I'm sorry that in retrospect I gave it a sexist tone but I was careful to state that it was NOT my intention denigrate women. I just don't see why guys who try to be nice are frequently dumped because they are thought of as "uninteresting" but then the bad boys are thought of
as interesting but jerks. My question is: WHO CAN WIN under such circumstances? Last night, I went on
a date with a woman who read my piece and pointed out to me that a number of guys do this on the other side of the coin, too, in their own way. Only instead of picking
an abusive girl (there ARE men who pick women who psychologically abuse them) many guys tend to select on the basis of "looks" and "easy sex" then wonder why they get hurt so bad when the gal peddles her assets and decides to leave the guy after he tore his heart out to get her. I should have realized that when I wrote the piece; it seems like I'm singling out women. I guess I asked the burning question because being a man, it has been MY experience (I don't even consider myself a nice guy, really). After a hit piece like 'mother confessor' I showed a nasty nature of my own). I've noticed A LOT of gals do grow to HATE men over the consequences of their OWN POOR choices and and I'm sure a lot of men speak ill of women for the same reasons, probably MYSELF included, but I don't intend to
speak ill of women, I just want to defend against THEIR
accusations, which I tend to take personally. I myself have on many occasions had to sit there in silence while
female coworkers openly verbally denigrated men to other women. I've worked in mostly women offices in my life,and seen and heard a lot of this. But I neglected to state, in my piece "What's Wrong With This Picture" about the guys,simply because at the time of writing the piece I hadn't thought of the other side of it, and my purpose was to express the frustration of a guy who WANTS TO BE NICE.. The "good" girls must want to express the same unjust
treatment too, because they don't let themselves be used and don't meet certain physical yardsticks set by many men. and they don't just bed down at the first opportunity.
So, I apologize to the Blender community of women here.
I am not against YOU I'M FOR YOU. It was an unintentionally one sided attack. I didn't intend it this way, rather only as frustration over a phenomemon of unfairness that frustrates me: that when I try to be nice I'm considered a "loser" by the exact same woman who, when I first meet her complains to me about how generally mean guys are to her. So, I guess it is human nature for people irrationally to want their cake and eat it too. It must have hit a chord,because both sides of the gender aisle have strong feelings on the subject. However it is never
my aim to foment division or "gender slam". Riggs and I expressed frustration because we find it irritating
that we are punished for wanting to be nice and play by some kind of fairness. Come on, can you totally blame us?
But at the same time, I want to nip in the bud any fostering of mutual antagonism. I sure don't want to start that and spoil the niceness of the Blender as a place of romance.


From: deevaa deevaa@paradise.net.nz
Date: 1 September 1999

Jlor,
<smiles and takes a deep breath>
I have re-written this first paragraph about 10 times now.. I had an English professor who told me the worst enemy of a writer was a blank page... so I am just going to start and hope it comes out right.

When I commented that it was hard not to take your words personally, it wasn't that I thought you where "Bashing" women, or putting me down, but because it touched home that I have been guilty of wanting to be "just friends" with a guy whose wanted more, or going out with a guy just because my mother thought he was "A bit rough" (he had long hair, rode a motorbike and all the girls in town was after him.)

I certainly think that both your writing and Riggs have a place on the blender and I didn't mean to make you feel bad for having posted it.

All of the works are VERY powerful and I believe that it is THAT reason that makes me FEEL them... it is your skill as writers to make the reader squirm in their seats... just as some of the more romantic poetry here can bring tears to my eyes, or a trail of longing in my heart, your words have brought out emotions in me that I didn't realise I had.
THANKYOU for sharing them...

deevaa



From: Jlor jlorenz@saber.net
Date: 1 September 1999

Dee: Your observations about your own experience and
taking this to heart shows that just because we have an
SO that turns out to be unkind to us doesn't always signify that we go around picking mean people and reject nice ones. In other words, we as often don't deserve what we get in the whole mix,as do; and one size doesn't fit all.

Thank you, Dee, for your comments from your experience.
It shows I am too simplistic oftentimes.


From: Cosette
Date: 1 September 1999

*blushes, waves to Angel*... thanks for the tasty comments on "afternoons would be better"... its actually how my expectations of a lover were redefined, because i have to admit, especially at my early ages, i was a bit influenced by how movies, romance novels, etc dictate man to play the role of a knight and a woman being always the damsel in distress. more often than not, roles of man and woman in a relationship are interchangable, with the underlying fact that love can be conveyed in so many ways for as long as your loved one gets the message.

hey blenderites, thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts here. i have to apologize for my lack of commentary this month. i have limited time because of our Y2k projects here, and other Treasury business solutions, but i make it a point to read all the new submissions at least every three days. i guess appreciating is what i can offer you right now.

ArtDog, Porch Light and Hurry Fall... "feathered dream..." tickled me... and leaves me searching for more-like a feather flying and getting lost
Kev, Heart with a view, close to the vest, what can i say? few words, lots of meaning
Deb, Tattoo and Missing
Jenna, Curiosity, loved the teaser last line...
Ta-Wei, How Do I? being in long distance thing myself, i understand that
sinneD, loved your nine-line spenserian stanza there... rhythm *sighs*, i
Guppy, abbrv. purge and minutes
Crys, Gemini, how odd i can relate... maybe its because im just one notch away from being Gemini (and sinneD too)
Mirage, Sweetest of Thieves
Angel, Boomerang thing, clever!
JLor, thanks for sharing "Soul of Fire", reading it from my mail moved me... but now seeing in on the Blender with the tribute line really convinced me to write again... thanks my friend.... got your mail and will email ya if i got time... and "How does it feel"...whew!
Dee, someone's secret crush, im reminded of highschool days!

i guess thats all for me this month... september's here! and im panicking on my deadlines! smile always...

Cosette =)


From: crystevin
Date: 1 September 1999

Thank you all for you kind comments on "Gemini".

-Crystevin


From: Angel
Date: 1 September 1999

Mumsleigh Sinclair~ "Romance is Like Sorting Socks", Oh, I am so glad I looked back over the submissions...this one I had missed and it made me *smile* so...

Angel


From: Madison
Date: 2 September 1999

Hello Blender, I've been *away*

Late night coffee and catching up on all the poetry I've missed, so many new creations - very nice. But I had to drop in to say I think I recognize a song by Rodgers and Hammerstein from "Carousel" submitted as a poem (in the August group). If someone has already mentioned it, and I didn't notice in the Blender comments, my apologies.

It's a great song, romantic, lovely... I'm certain whoever submitted never intended to appear as if they'd written this work. Probably just a case of an overzealous send click-button.




From: Riggs
Date: 2 September 1999

OK time to clear a few things up. (ALthough I think that Jlor has pretty much done it already) Deeva I apologise if any of my words offended you. They weren't aimed at anyone personally it was more of a venting of frustration. Obviously it is a gross generalisation to try and put all women into one collective group. This goes for any one else who may have been offended as well. I don't think that it's wrong though to write that sort of stuff. If words can make us examine ourselves then I think that it is a good thing. It doesn't matter if the words are our own or somebody else's. Sure it's uncomfortable some of the time. But maybe it should be. Who knows? That's the beauty of it.


From: Riggs
Date: 2 September 1999

Angel
"Waiting" was brilliant. Ain't it just a bitch to be labelled "just" friends. I'm feeling inspired. Quickly not a moment to lose. A pen. a pen. my kingdom for a pen.


From: Deb
Date: 2 September 1999

Riggs
For You... I can relate totally. we're in the same boat.
I hope you have oars.
Deb


From: deevaa -- deevaa@paradise.net.nz
Date: 2 September 1999

Riggs--

I was never offended by your words... I think that making the reader re-eveulate their actions it the mark of a gifted writer and I had meant my comment as a compliment to your art.
I was affraid I had offend YOU.

(and may I be cheeky enough to ask if you are Australian?? If so it is nice to have a southern hemisphere soul on the board.)

Take care of your heart.

dee

PS

Jlor -- "Dumped like...."
OUCH.. but remember... 3 days.... (((Jlor)))


From: Rennie Lorca - Lorca@bigfoot.com
Date: 2 September 1999

artdog and Toklas....you know that I am thrilled to see you coming on the Blender site...don't slow down with the verses now...I love to see your work here...:)....Rennie


From: Jenna Holland (poetic_angel@gurlmail.com)
Date: 2 September 1999

Cossette and Deevaa- Thanks for the comppliments on "Curiosity" :o)

-Jenna-


Date: 2 September 1999

man, i'm feeling unloved on this sight!!! *pout* just kidding.......its nice to see that you guys have such a comraderie, especially with your shared loved of literature.........i may not always submitt, but i love checking this thing just to check it out and see whats on it........thanks "guppy" my little compadre!!! for showing me the light of the love blender........*i pronounced it la-uvvvvvvvvvv blenda in my head btw*

later you amazingly talented people!!!!


From: the gnome dragonfleyes@msn.com
Date: 2 September 1999

i just realized, there is a reason we are given names....................


Date: 2 September 1999

the peom "baby, its you"..really gave me ideas on my imagination. it helped me write a meaningfulpoem about an wonderful experience that happened to me..thanks!!...oh yeah btw i love this site...great poem and stories to express one another feelings about your ideas..=)


From: sweetie
Date: 2 September 1999

the poem "baby, its you"..really gave me ideas on my imagination. it helped me write a meaningfulpoem about an wonderful experience that happened to me..thanks!!...oh yeah btw i love this site...great poem and stories to express one another feelings about your ideas..=)


From: Mumsleigh Sinclair
Date: 2 September 1999

China cup heart.....beautiful, Angel....and, thanks for the comms on "...Sorting Socks".

Mum :)


From: Mumsleigh Sinclair
Date: 2 September 1999

I guess I should add that I know how this feels, Angel..."S"

Mum :)


From: Riggs
Date: 3 September 1999

Jlor
Scuse the french here mate, but for fuck's sake. After reading part 2 of dumped I'm a little unsure of a few things. The whole piece was a brilliant work of savage aggression. (It feels good don't it) But I was completely mystefied by the last line. "If this is love it isn't worth it". What the FUCK? I can assure you of one thing. Whatever you had with this woman, it was not love. My God, just reading the story is proof enough. Conditional frienship is not friendship. This woman is not worthy of your or anyone else's time and if you seriously think that you will miss her, then it's a sad state of affairs. I hope I don't sound like I'm sitting on a high horse here but damn... I can appreciate your pain, but maybe it's better that you found out about her sooner rather than later. I dunno. Don't keep her as a friend. Don't have anything to do with her. I can assure you she "isn't worth it." It was a brilliant story and I'm glad you wrote it.
Good Luck.

PS this isn't meant as an insult to anyone. Except maybe the subject of Jlor's story.


From: Riggs
Date: 3 September 1999

Deeva
You got me. How'd you know I was from Oz. Oh and what part of Wellington are you from?


From: Jlor jlorenz@saber.net
Date: 3 September 1999

Riggs: Thank you for your comments on Dumped part II

No, I totally agree with you that this person isn't even
worth a second of my time to grieve over "losing"
her as any thing remotely resembling a "friendship. After all if that's a friend, so's a piranha or a killer bee.
No, it's my total inital shock of having a spectacular
string of people somewhat like this one all in a row that makes me wonder what the heck is going on. Maybe I AM a loser but do I deserve to be savaged just for trying to
find a person to be friends with? I didn't proposition
anyone and as far as I know I didn't treat these people
with any lack of respect. The state of affairs any more is so sad that it seems like the people I'm likely to find
given my shyness and low self esteem are people like this who smell blood or something. My question being asked saying "if this is love.." was intended to mean, "are
things this vicious in the community of singles looking for dates that people have come to act like this almost
routinely?" If it is I who am somehow eliciting people like this, someone please put me out of my misery. I don't
enjoy pain and won't put up with this level of it. Not even
for the sake of looking for love.
Thanks for your insights and comments, and I really appreciate my Blender friends, who've helped me through
a lot of this amazingly, it seems to me, unnecessary trauma
all because I decided to want to not be a loner anymore
and entered the "dating scene" (or is it the praying
mantis "bite your head off" scene?


From: Jlor jlorenz@saber.net
Date: 3 September 1999

A few poems I'd like to comment on (and return my remarks
to a more constructive, positive direction):

Angel- China Cup Heart. What a perfect picture of the
paradox of people "admiring but won't touch..."
at some point in our lives (at least my take on it)
Can I say "amen" to your, as usual, brilliant,
sad/sweet poetry? What your poems do to me!! :>)
Galadrial: "Same Orchard, Different Tree" The other side
of the coin. How do I extricate myself if should
want to? I guess someone finding US isn't
always an unmixed blessing. Being trapped is
another aspect not often written about. I feel
your struggle inside. Nicely written.
Madison:"Take Care" (are we not in the same canoe with
called "heartache"?) Your expression of your
pain is very vivid.
Gnomey and Alissa: I haven't had a chance to read your
submissions yet, that's why no comment
as yet. No intended slight to you
by the omission of comment at this
point. I just need to get busy and
finish reading.


From: jlor jlorenz@saber.net
Date: 3 September 1999

One more comment: I don't know why when I submit a comment
on the Blender Board, that the formatting comes out all
over the page when it shows up on the Board. Is it something wrong with my computer programming? It doesn't appear this way to me when I'm writing it.
I guess this is sort of a question and a diclaimer over
how ugly the text looks when splattered all over the
page with the length and shortness of lines of text randomly appearing for no reason I can figure out. I don't know how to fix the problem. I'm using Windows 98, so any
suggestions? Email me someone, please, if you do.
Thanks.


From: Madison [aka_madison@hotmail.com]
Date: 3 September 1999


Thank you, Jlor. I'm looking for the poem "Heartaches" now to compare the two, it is yours?
Or do you mean heartaches as in the verb. Is heartaches a verb? haha Interesting, I've never
considered that before....... okay back to the point, Madison.

One thing I'm thinking as I type, I'm not sure whosaidwhatwhen, but I've got an overall
feel that some men, from parts of the Blender Board I've scanned, believe women are looking
for the bad guys. They hear so many stories about them. My thought for the morning is:
I for one, am attracted to the good guys and run like mad from the "crazy makers."
I'm thinking, there are probably as many heartache stories wrapped around good guys as bad.
And I'd think the level of heartache would be deeper as well, so much more you've lost when
you've lost a good man. The difference, perhaps, is that when the relationship dissolves, we
don't want to "tell" how the good ones hurt us. They're still good. Maybe it's a respect issue.

On the other hand, when the bad ones run through our lives, leaving chaos and question marks
all over our faces, you guys are a lot more likely to hear about it. Ah, but the secrets held inside
of the sweet men who broke our hearts. Maybe I'm not making any sense here. But I think
someone out there knows what I'm talking about? Bottom line: Stay sweet, stay good. The
good ones will gravitate to you. The loss may be greater but oh what a love while it was there.
And never let anyone treat you in a way you'd never treat them. You deserve to get what you give.

Madison


From: jshrove@nassco.com
Date: 3 September 1999

Melissa....empty hands is excellent! I cant really put into
words how it made me feel...I guess many times I have felt that same way.
Beautiful words!
TheVampire


From: galadrial
Date: 3 September 1999

Hi John---

Thanks for the comment. An observation from my own life---I've never found love when I went looking. Only after I gave up, decided to live alone, yada yada---and boom. Bushwhacked!

Extrication is another beast all together. It's easier done if both parties entered with close to the same expectations... unfortunately, that's rare. Love tends to consume, rather than create, and then you're left with emotions that dangle and snarl. I love Kirk for giving us a chance to channel the energy into something real. You sound angry sometimes---yes I've read your postings. But you seem to be a good judge of line and syntax.

Thanks again, and write on!


From: Kirk, Blender-Keeper
Date: 3 September 1999

The new Digest is here-- check out the review especially, I'm anxious to see if you guys can get into the idea of it.


From: Jlor jlorenz@saber.net
Date: 3 September 1999

Thanks to both Madison and Galadrial for your insights.

Madison and Galadrial and other Blender people: I feel bad
that I've brought the ugliness of gender war on this
lovely site. Apparently it's never far below the surface
from the response I've received over my piece hit a lot
of targets, so there must be latent pent up anger in others
too, and not just myself. But I never intended to start this controversy and consume the amount of peoples' time and energy as it has. I don't believe in stereotyping at
all, and yet my writing has turned into the supreme piece
of gender stereotyping as it has been received. I realize
it had the tone of anger, puzzlement and hurt to it because
that's what I felt when I wrote it. That's been my experience with those I've dated of the opposite sex and
in my workplace in hearing comments bashing men and even
getting anti-male jokes put on my desk. So, I've probably
built up my own "anti" response and it sounds hateful toward all women, but I NEVER, I repeat NEVER have nor will
I ever hate women. It is the opposite: it hurts so bad
because I often PREFER their company. I am not expert in the area of relationships and who picks whom for what
reason or why people complain after they make their
choices, but I'm not sure people are silent about being
hurt, whether they are hurt by "good" or "bad" significant others. I am increasingly seeing that I'm not qualified at all to analyze who does what for what reason. I just see a lot of it going on IN BOTH SEXES (let me clarify my original remarks) and it doesn't matter so much WHY they do it as that IT IS DONE and it hurts. I only stated
what I've observed from my own experience, which is that
nice people(now too late amended to THE NICE girls AND GUYS) tend to get short shrift, NOT ALWAYS, BUT OFTEN.
I have my theories about why this is getting worse, as
evidenced by the skyrocketing divorces, break ups and mistrust between the genders. One big reason, in my
scenario, is that we have fostered and developed a culture that stresses personal satisfaction of desires to the exclusion of all else and has fostered is a very predatory pop culture in which people are now trained to judge
you instantly on your looks and your wealth to determine
your worth as a person. With the advent of equal rights,
now more women than in the old days, since they have become independent and have power now, are beginning to do what used to be a more male characteristic and make their own
superficial judgements based on looks, money and the "titillation" factor. Ethics and character are becoming subordinated to materialism and lust as a reason for choosing a mate.Our pop culture teaches people to be merciless, competitive, predatory and selfish, so it is little wonder we see this attitude manifesting in the area of romance too, filtering into the populace at large. As people become ever more "consumers" in terms of love and romance, the tendency to "buy" what "looks and feels good at the moment" and throw away what doesn't. rather than
sticking with more reasoned judgment seems to be taking hold, and my anger, which Galadrial has rightly identified, is what I feel as the recipient of this "reject" status. Of course, now I may be just crying "sour grapes" because I
can't participate in the arena of the "winners" but I am frequently whipped with the popular fallacy rampant these days: the fallacy of our own almighty will, which, according to Hollywood wisdom, tells us we have the power
"within us" ( hindu concept) to work miracles if we only want to. Again, this is a PARTIAL truth. The attitude and
will do play a large part in achievement, but what is called "success" is often something that looks good on the
surface, but is shallow and narcissistic in its substance.
In this popular mythology, a person is held responsible for whatever misfortune befalls them, as if it is always their
own fault for not being a "winner" even if part of the
reason they have problems in fact IS beyond their control (genetics, temporary circumstances, clash of temperaments, bad choices made in the past coming back on them, etc) and people are rewarded instantly with rejection for not being "winners" by these pop standards by their significant other or potential significant other who votes with their feet and leaves to get the latest "designer fashionss" (hot fads which includes requiring the opposite sex to be next to "god" before they are good enough). So, perhaps my
anger at my status as a loser and my inability to compete on the level of a "god" is why I manifest resentment in my writing as well as hurt (to paraphrase Shylock, if you
tickle me do I not laugh? If you cut me do I not bleed? Just because I'm not a total winner, I am human and still experience hurt at a string of rejections, which, while granted my responsibility for my character flaws and for not being a supreme physical specimen or financial wizard), which I REFUSE to take ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY for the hurt I've received for my daring to go out and try to date.
I think Galadrial is right. Time to withdraw and forget it.
I wonder what it takes to find anyone left, not taken, who isn't a jerk a savage or a predator, such as I described in my last few pieces. If that anger isn't o.k. and if that is hurting the Blender, perhaps it is time for me to depart and let the place return to the status of a more romantic site that feels good and doesn't include the 'failure' side of romance. I know no one likes negativity for very long, and I don't like it either, but in my life right now, I can't seem to help it when hurt is so persistent. I've analyzed until I'm blue in the face, and even though I see my part in creating the problem for myself, I will never admit that I totally deserve to be treated like a warm steaming doggie pile of doo doo on a cold morning. I was ready to leave the idea of romance before and I think as
angry and negative as I feel at the moment, I'm seriously
considering so again. I've already caused enough trouble here (and this isn't self pity, so don't accuse me of it)
and let those who have a message to write have the space
that I'm wasting. It will take me too long to dig out of where I'm at, and I don't have the heart to sit and suffer in silence while I stay here and watch romance pass
by. Continuing to contribute negativity is counterproductive
too, so that's my reality. And I'm tired of people telling me to do an attitude adjustment. I'll tell them to do that
next time they are hurt a lot. Nothing like a slap when you're in pain. I've already been told everything in the book so a new rebuke, even though well intentioned, won't hurt me at this point. I hate all the popular "people throw away terms" our culture uses: "self pity," "loser", "only you can make yourself happy" I've heard all the mantras and they don't work sometimes, even if there's a kernel of truth in each. And I frankly am unconcerned who approves of
my attitude and who doesn't. Even we who are less than perfect need love too. One more thing: I'm not saying this
to be a prima donna or to have people say they don't want me to leave. I'm speaking purely from a point of view of
whether there is anything useful for me to contribute while
in this mode of life. In this case, it IS my choice.


From: Galadrial
Date: 3 September 1999

Hi John,

Wow. Agree with some of your insights, but at this stage of my life, I wonder why it is that men and women dance the same silly dance over and over---then expect a different outcome from the time before. I was observing a chat the other night, and a young man was bitterly complaining that a woman he'd met that way had mispresented herself. He was looking for love---personality was all important---but he rejected this girl becuase she was too fat for his taste. I couldn't help myself---I asked him why he kept saying that personality was so important, when he rejected her for appearence. This confused him badly---and made him angry. He said she lied. I told him he lied too---when he told her that looks didn't matter.

I am a cynical romantic. I just can't understand why people set themselves up over and over. I have friends who will not even speak to a woman who is even ten pounds overweight---or doesn't have the right shade of eye color.
But you know what John? Goofy as it may sound, I believe earnestly in love, and it's ability to heal the human spirit. We just have to learn to seperate what love really is from our fantasies---or Hollywood hype.

I could probaly give you a "jerk" tale for every "bitch" tale you have. But I still love people, and I adore men, no matter how many times I've been disappointed, hurt, or even betrayed. Good luck to you---and ease up on yourself. In the meantime, keep writing. It helps the soul to lose the venom.


From: Crystevin
Date: 3 September 1999

*taking the chance of pissing people off*

will you guys get over it already. LOVE and romance IS gender based as are our personal experiences. That's just the way it is and in my opinion, what makes it all worth while. This long winded constant attempt to define the undefinitive is growing old and takes up space. The fact is simply this; We have our own experiences, perceptions and realities as well as fantasies..most are naturally, "NATURALLY" GENDER based. I'm of the belief this subject is burned out, and the more i see of it, the more annoyed i get. Can we please move on or at least keep the self explanatory prose to a minimum? sorry, that's just me.

-Crystevin


From: Crystevin
Date: 3 September 1999

OH AND by the way...CONGRATS to the all front cover picks, all are well deserved great works.

-Crystevin


From: Jlor jlorenz@saber.net
Date: 3 September 1999

Crystevin: I didn't set out to make this a controversy
so I'm annoyed by your annoyance. Get ovet it yourself.If
it's taking up space, why are so many people writng about it?
Or do we just talk about what YOU want? I'm leaving anyway
so have a nice life'


From: deevaa deevaa@paradise.net.nz
Date: 3 September 1999

<grin> Riggs your "Aussie-ness" gave you away!! hehe... only us Kiwis and Aussies say things like "oh for cripes sakes" and "bloody hell" and I think you also refered to men as "blokes" at one stage... which gave you away totally.

I also wondered if you took "Riggs" from Mel Gibsons character in the Lethal weapon series... Mel being of course the most famous of Aussie blokes.

I live just outside Wellington City... I'd tell you via email but not on the board... (its above if you want to use it) AND I still have that picture at work for you...

Jlor, I think that the reason why your formatting isn't constant is because you use a return to wrap words in the comment form box, if you don't use the return is self wraps and fits any width window.

Congrats to the front page picks, I am suprised and honoured to be one of them...

<wiggles about shouting> two weeks today!!!!!!!

Take care of your hearts.

dee




From: gnomey
Date: 3 September 1999

actually......*ahem* i kinda gree with crystevin there...........she/he/it has a valid point.........(sorry but don't know the gender there crystevin) ...........i thought this was a sight about literature and poetry and heartache, not about man bashing woman and woman bashing men..............


From: Melissa aka heart Song
Date: 4 September 1999

Vampire, it's good to know that I'm not alone. Thank you.
:-)

Melissa


Kirk: Thanks for putting my on the cover, I'm honored.


From: heart Song
Date: 4 September 1999

Angel:
HA HA I made the cover, I made the cover, Angel I made the cover! LOL Love you sis!


From: Riggs
Date: 4 September 1999

Deb
Glad you enjoyed 'For you' it's a shame I submitted it so late in the month cos I don't think many people read it.

Dee
Congratulations on your selection on the cover.

I'm off.....


From: Crystevin
Date: 4 September 1999

I'm male and i'm full of my own imperfections like everyone else regardless of gender. Thank you gnomey for getting my point. The "nature" of man, while a noteworthy subject in philosophical debate, is one that has been going on for thousands of years and will not be figured out here. I am not trying to dictate the subject of the forum here, i just think the argument has run it's course and since it seems to ping pong between a few, may be better served in personal emails. I don't make the rules here and am not attempting to chase anyone off. i'm merely stating my opinion and annoyance that it continues. I'd much rather see the protaganists put those emotions back into the poems where they have already shown themselves very capable.

For what it's worth

-Crystevin


From: Angel
Date: 4 September 1999

HEART~ *BIG SMILE* TOLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 4 September 1999

COngratulations everybody on a job well done...All front cover pics were terrific...Heart, Zoe, MVR and the rest...GREAT JOB! :-)

Angel


From: Madison
Date: 4 September 1999

Toklas ~ I keep going back to read 'Strange Bird' again. What a deep and compelling poem.


From: the gnome dragonfleyes@msn.com
Date: 4 September 1999

lol, oh man this is funny...........i just saw the front cover, being the ever available procrastinator.........hehe, i didn't look at it till now, even though its been available for a few days...............ha!!!! javaman is on it!!!!!! so, if anyone wants to know who "sarah, oh naked without clothes on" ha, thats me!!!! hows, that for a hoot, anyway, i thought it was funny.........it was just someone i was talking to, and we suddenly both cut off, and he knew how much i liked this sight, so he posted that here, cause of weird of weird, neither of us had either others emails...........so hey, i came here, and there it was!!! his email!!!! so hows that for a story from behind the poem, it was just cool cause he is orginally from where i live now, and have my whole entire life, and wow, this is the most personal thing i've put on here, think i'll go attempt to be inspired.............whew hew, that means inspiration at work..........does this qualify as a comment?? okay..........later beautiful people..............oh yeah.............GUPPY YOU DORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WRITE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE GNOME or as you all know now...............sarah.


From: Jenna Holland (poetic_angel@gurlmail.com)
Date: 4 September 1999

Congrats to all that made the front page pics!

-Jenna-


From: Rennie Lorca - Lorca@bigfoot.com
Date: 4 September 1999


Kirk: Once again, thank you for enjoying my work enough to include it in your Digest. I am sincerely flattered by that, and always by your comments. I am honored to be able to come on this site and post with poets of such rich and diverse expressive emotions. Again, thank you for providing the forum.

To All commenting: Thank you for all the congratulations to those who made the Digest...a possibility in reach for all poets here.

It is wonderful to know that poets can post here and have the chance of inspiring or influencing someone from anywhere in the world...awesome.......Rennie


From: laughing deevaa
Date: 4 September 1999

Gnomey good luck with the guppy emailing ya....

<giggling and dashing out>


From: Crystevin
Date: 4 September 1999

Jlor *taking the chance that you may still be lurking about*

You take things way too personally. Yes, pain sucks, yes, hurt and failure are a part of romance and works relating to those certainly have their place here. My comments were simply at the overwhelming amount of commentary on the board pertaining to personal philosophy and self-explanation (and not only by you). You don't HAVE to explain YOUR art, your pain or your poems to ANYBODY unless you choose to and my annoyance was at the constant attempt by you to try to explain your position. Stick to your guns as you said yourself, don't be concerned with other peoples attitudes, least of all mine and especially as they pertain to YOUR WORKS. go in peace if you must go but i'm sure your works and your participation will be missed by those in here you have bonded with....and with that...you have my last unsolicited "two cents" on the whole issue.

-Crystevin


From: also annoyed but patient
Date: 4 September 1999

I think jlor is a deeply troubled but talented individual.


From: Kirk, Blender-Keeper
Date: 4 September 1999

Anyone get a chance to checkout "The Space Under the Window"? Any thoughts?


From: crystevin
Date: 5 September 1999

Kirk- I couldn't get the Java to load. Kept getting the "zplet not found" message. So i dl'd it and still couldn't get it to execute. Sounds interesting though. *S* I'll keep checking back to see if i just caught it at a bad time.

-Crystevin


From: Angel
Date: 5 September 1999

Me either , kirk...And I did try, though I hate games...there's always the chance I may lose...lol

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 5 September 1999

I am very impresses with the new sus so far this month...I have a very long comment list coming...

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 5 September 1999

Madison~ I enjoyed ALL of your subs, "Take Care", very well written...every word resounded the numbness of a traumatized heart *sniff*. ANd, "Bret", strange how reality can sneak up on ya! :-), "Bonding", WOw!!! A lot said here in this short piece.

Alissa~ "e-marriage of interNETy", A very good piece on the, 'new frontier of love'. Alissa's treatment on the topic was very discerning and thourough.

Heartsong~ "Empty Hands", very nice , Heart...loved the last line...and I hope he does :-)

G.~"Lust", *smile*, this one is short, yet smacks of realism.

Art Dog~ "Slow river's pool", I waltzed right through this one...well written...nice flow.

Rennie~"Romantic Vacation", GREAT imagery...another FANTASTIC short piece by Rennie.

The Guppy~ "Comma", *BIG SMILE*, WOW...thanks for that natural high! YOu crack me Up!!! :-)

Angel


From: ZoE
Date: 5 September 1999

Congrats to all who made THE COVER! I am back from my honeymoon....too short I think! Kirk thanks for picking my piece for the front page! ;)
-ZoE


From: Roy B Law 100144.2147@compuserve.com
Date: 5 September 1999

[] First-time visit. Really great site, shall return soon, but why or why doesn't Heart-on-Sleeve corner return you to the place you were when you drilled down to read the item?
[] Why can't you 'attach' a .doc file instead of using plain vanilla ASCII?

regards.


From: deevaas counting the days....
Date: 5 September 1999

Art Dog and the Guppy... wow... loved the new ones!!!

Guppy, I can't wait to meet you and see if your as insane in real life as your poetry indicates!!!!

Riggs, thanks for the congratulations... can't wait to see some new stuff...

I'm leaving for Japan in 12 days.... Oh MY god.

Oh and Kirk, ditto about the java applet.

dee


From: Daisy Daisy19970@aol.com
Date: 5 September 1999



Hey Blender-readers!

While this is my first time posting anything on this absolutely amazing site...I feel pretty at home! (But really excited. lol Not used to doing this.) I read all the time, very inspiring and talented are you all! Anyway...get to the point here Daisy...I thought I'd say somethin' in response to Deevas' trip to Japan! I've studied Japenese and I want to wish you MUCH luck!!!! After a year I was still left in the dust at one point or another! So good luck, and much happiness to y'all!
*Daisy*
P.s. Plan on postin' somethin' real soon! Just gotta figure out which one I want to post! LOL


Date: 5 September 1999

Thanks to all you who called Jlor a deeply troubled but
talented indivdual and woman basher. Where do you all
get your profound wisdom? From hanging around here?
You're all poets laureate, I'm sure.FUCK YOU


From: Beth (formerly BethanyM@aol.com, now AngelBethany@aol.com)
Date: 5 September 1999

Jlor....
I need your help. things have gotten terrible if you know what i mean. I'm not getting anywhere. (Note the change of email address)

Beth


From: Riggs
Date: 6 September 1999

Lassez faire be buggered. Whoever submitted that comment on the 5 of this month criticizing the opinions of members of this forum listen in. I don't know who you are cos you didn't have the guts to put a name to your pathetic little digression, but on the off chance that you come back here, listen in. Who the hell are you to criticize their opinions. If you don't have enough talent to write something youself, or have nothing better to do that sit about and bitch, stop wasting space on the board and fuck off. And don't try to hold me up as an example of another critic railing on Jlor, if you had seen any of last months board, you'd realise that I was impressed with a lot of his stuff. What annoyed people was his tendency to write vast amounts of material on the same subject. Take your jealousy somewhere else chief. Oh and because it bears repeating, go fuck yourself.
(Apologies to the rest of you....Fools like this anger me....You probably noticed)
I'm off


From: Elaine Loraine d'Orgain
Date: 6 September 1999

I have been asked several times now --
les licornes is the unicorns.
There are more unicorn verses on:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1250/elaine.html


From: Angel
Date: 6 September 1999

WELCOME back Zoe...and congratulations, hon...on you wedding and your Blender pic...I am anxiously awaiting pictures *wink*

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 6 September 1999

Hope you have a great trip to Japan and the States, Dee...And meeting GUPPY! WOW!!! Also, Congratulations to you Dee, on your Blender pic...loved it:-)

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 6 September 1999

Crystevin~ "Nature of Man", 'letting love find you is much easier than searching for emptiness'....so true Crys...

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 6 September 1999

Riggs~ "Dream Provocation", And what is really special is when you can believe in that dream well enough to make it come true :-)

Angel


From: kevin urenda, kluless70@hotmail.com
Date: 6 September 1999

Back after a whirlwind tour of Kansas and Oklahoma (my gorgeous cousin Lisa made the most beautiful bride, next to my lovely honey, of course...)

And Congrats to each and every one of my friends on their selections to the Digest. And yes, Kirk, I am included in your comment accompanying Zoe's work: "Astue [sic] regular readers might notice I seem to pay less attention to poems of good cheer." I suppose that I have been much too cheerful of late! Oh well... What are ya gonna do??

<off to snuggle with said honey>

Later,

-k


From: Riggs
Date: 7 September 1999

Pywackitpurr
'An Equation' brilliant. love it. feels good to write like that huh.


From: Kirk, Blender-Keeper
Date: 7 September 1999

Jeez, can't believe I missed "astue".

Anyways, in general it's harder to write a really good happy poem than a wistful one. (Though it's also important not to write a whiny one.)


From: kevin urenda, kluless70@hotmail.com
Date: 7 September 1999

Kirk-

VERY good point.
So many in this life lack any real experience with LASTING commitment that they lack a sense of perspective about Love. And the first refuge of many who get hurt (this includes ME, btw) is the land of WHINE.

I have been trying like crazy to keep a balanced perspective in my heart and the poetry that emanates from that heart. With mixed success... But I shan't stop writing and neither should anyone else!

BTW, I got into that interactive site this morning and it is WAY cool...

<work beckons, with gnarled and crooked finger>

-k


From: cj
Date: 7 September 1999

this is a great page for the romantic at heart


From: Madison
Date: 7 September 1999

Angel - (thankyouthankyouthankyou)

:) Madison


From: Rennie Lorca - Lorca@bigfoot.com
Date: 7 September 1999

Dear Angel,

Bless you once again for the praise on a verse (Romantic Vacation). I want to see more of you in the subs...don't slow down now...I enjoy your work........Rennie


From: Angel
Date: 7 September 1999

Rennie~ To quote Brandi, "I just aint got one in me!" :-)
...but they will come.

Angel


From: Crystevin
Date: 7 September 1999

I too am a whiner. :)

*whiners anonymous meeting*

"hello, i'm Crystevinnnn, and love suck"

(((((((((HELLO CRYSTEVIN)))))))))))))

*sniff* "I love you guys"

just being a goof today

-Crystevin


From: giggling deevaa
Date: 7 September 1999

<see's Cyrs is being a goof-ball and looks at her watch>

hmmm... I seem to have lost my watch... thats strange, I was sure someone said once....

Heya Crys... got time to email a cute kiwi chick?

Riggs, I don't know if you've been about long enough to remember, but I think I wrote something that you'd enjoy... it made the front cover the month before last, the first in the 'confusion series'... check it out.. and let me know what you think.... <makes a mental note to send that scan home to upload.>

dee


From: Daisy
Date: 7 September 1999

Crystevin~ Much applause for "Choose Love"! Love the questions and thoughts that came to my head while reading that...now working on a new piece!

To All~ Despite others thoughts...you are all very talented and truly blessed; beit grief, joy, or tears...all are gifts which help to create the Art that you all write, they're the fuel for your blessing.

Happy Middle of the Week!

*Daisy*


From: deevaa
Date: 7 September 1999

Guppy.... I LOVE 'treading' - I knew it had to be special cause you actually told me you where pleased with it...

I know your just proud cause you could work the word 'calamari' in... but the line that got me...

"i must admit, i meant to drift, but, not drift alone"

Its so.... YOU -ish to say that!
(((hugs))) for my friend.

dee


From: Riggs
Date: 7 September 1999

You nailed it there dee. I loved it. Whew, powerful stuff. You should write stuff like that more often. Although I know as well as anyone it's hard to do unless you actually feel it. Maybe I'll post something I wrote a long time ago, hmm. Can't decide.
Oh well.
I'm off


From: Cosette
Date: 7 September 1999

Loved all the front page picks... you all deserve your space there!
ZoE, i cant believe i missed "In love with a deaf boy"... i especially enjoyed it.....
Rennie, Guppy and Dee, you are being consistent in being there on the front page...keep it up....enjoyed all your submissions.....
and yes i agree with Kev, Kirk and Crys! i almost forgot how it feels to be in love that hurts... but at least am still *human* to relate to all the whiner's works from this place.....
Madison.. am so glad youre back! missed your works.....
X fan... i miss X too...
ill read the new works later, another Y2k critical date is coming! wahhh.....

Cosette =)


From: deevaa
Date: 7 September 1999

Riggs.... do it... do it... <wink> I triple dog dare ya to!


From: deevaa
Date: 8 September 1999

OK... the whole reason for drawing this has probally been lost now, but seeing as I have been promising for so long... Riggs, this ones for you... http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~deevaa/shoebox.jpg


From: <gigglin' deevaa>
Date: 8 September 1999

<grin>

hmmmm..... what a good morning, Kevin... your two in honour of 'X' .... Crys, 'One' and Hope 'Red,silky... Three four poems one word..... YUM!

deevaa


From: <gigglin' deevaa>
Date: 8 September 1999

<grin>

hmmmm..... what a good morning, Kevin... your two in honour of 'X' .... Crys, 'One' and Hope 'Red,silky'... four poems one word..... YUM!

deevaa


From: <blushing deevaa>
Date: 8 September 1999

oh bugger... sorry about that ....

shall I just shut up for a few days or so?


From: <deevaa shuffling in one more time>
Date: 8 September 1999

<mumbling> sorry sorry sorry.. just thought you'd like to know it is 10.30am on the 9/9/99 and as yet no problems have been reported.... one Y2K date down... what 9 more to go?


From: heart Song
Date: 8 September 1999

Can I have a hug????

love you guys!!!


From: heart Song
Date: 8 September 1999

Angel as the rest, I loved China Cup heart. simply you.
gosh, so many new poets,
question, where do old poets go when they go away?
to live out life I guess.

Erin- untitled, sounds alot like my life.

Riggs-Dream Provocation was very nice.

mrh-untitled, I really liked it lots.

art dog-slow rivers pool was soooo good.

Sirbroken heart- nice work.

heather- I really loved CRASH!!

Toklas-You are my pick so far with Love Lyric!

Hope- Red, silky, soft, and Sheer, was nicely done.

Dream Angel- GReat, great, great, footprints in the sand.

Elaine Lorain D'Orgain- I loved your style, it's missed. I absolutely loved Looking beyond magic.

ajTong- 3 words. very nice.

I had a great time reading all the works here tonight, it's good to catch up!

Kirk, I tried to do the review, but couldn't get it to work.

See you guys.

Deevaa!!!! how many more days now??????
Zoe, hello love!
Kevin, and hey to you too!




From: Toklas blee@direct.ca
Date: 9 September 1999

Rennie, thank you for the welcome to the blender.
I am reading some great work here! Thank you Madison for your comments on Strange Bird. And Heart song-glad you enjoyed Love Lyric.

Elaine L'Oraine D O'rgain, I was particularly touched by "looking beyond magic."
Rennie, Romantic Vacation is a wonderul poem!

Madison, in "Take care" I liked the image of a dead man's float. Know that feeling!

Am still reading and enjoying! Dream Angel, I also really liked "Footprints in the Sand"

happy writing all!


From: Elaine Loraine d'Orgain
Date: 9 September 1999

Dear heartSong and Toklas,

Thank you for your comments on "looking beyond the magic...." I has been a real treat keeping up with your verses and how they move me.

Elaine Loraine...'rainie


From: Rennie Lorca - Lorca@bigfoot.com
Date: 9 September 1999


Angel, your verses are worth waiting on (she says impatiently)...go write!...until the verses take on a life of their own...you will never run dry that way.

Cosette, thank you for the compliment. I always read your postings a number of times for the deeper view. Thank you for sharing.

heartSong, always inspiring...I will go start another line just because of you...thanks.

Tokals, thank you...thank you for coming to the Blender and sharing your verses. I knew you would love it and be loved here...and artdog..:).

Thanks to all who like Kirk's picks, of which I was one...it is honest verse...I am just glad he liked it from me............Rennie


From: Rennie Lorca - Lorca@bigfoot.com
Date: 9 September 1999

Forgive me Toklas (Tokals)...I am having trouble working through typos in tears........Rennie


From: heart Song
Date: 9 September 1999

Rennie-Thank you I have long enjoyed your work.


From: Ladysage40@hotmail.com
Date: 9 September 1999

DAMN!


Comma by The Guppy! Absolutely awesome! Incredible!
F***** Good!

DAMN! If you were here I'd have to hit you that was so good.

Sage


From: Laura pvec@yahoo.com
Date: 9 September 1999

I am looking for a poem by e.e. cummings. It is apparently so short it has been overlooked by many websites dedicated to him. I think it goes as follows:

lonlaleaffallsiness

Anyway, it is something like that. If anyone has ever heard of this, could you PLEASE e-mail me with the correct layout and format. I need it for linguistics class on Sept. 13th.

Thanks guys!

Laura


From: grinning like a loon deevaa
Date: 9 September 1999

gosh I thought i was on the Marie Celeste yesterday!

heart Song... a week tomorrowwwwwwwwwwww!


From: Toklas blee@direct.ca
Date: 9 September 1999

Oh Madison, the image of tying thoughts to paper kites just gives me shivers--thank you for that one.


From: Angel
Date: 9 September 1999

Madison~ "Angel Man", <SIGH>...Absolutely Beautiful! WOW WOW WOW! I LOVED IT!...'I tie my thoughts to paper kites...'WOW!
This one, I will keep!

Angel


From: The Guppy
Date: 10 September 1999

ladysage--ha...i'm so cracking up right now...thanks so much for liking that one...violently liking it...ha...you=funny

please don't hit me :)

gup


From: heart Song
Date: 10 September 1999

Happy Friday!!!! Hope everyone has a great weekend.
:-)


From: Madison
Date: 10 September 1999

Toklas, Angel, thank you. I'd been wanting to write that one since August a year ago, when the scene was born.


From: Toklas blee@driect.ca
Date: 10 September 1999

Kevin, I loved "Cutting edge"

It was the paper cuts on my heart bit that really hit home.
Thank you for that one!


From: Roy 100144.2147@compuserve.com
Date: 11 September 1999

Kirk et al

[]Don't trade links with Eric! I am sure that he is a warm and wonderful person (WWP)and that all the advertisers on his site are also WWPs, but this would not blend well.

[]This community seems unique, united by a common ability and interest; let's keep it that way!

regards/roy.


From: Angel
Date: 11 September 1999

Two Poems well worth mentioning:

Heartsong~ "Tapestry of Dreams", a classic :-)

Kevin~ "Cutting Edge", sliced right through my heart <sigh>...nice.

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 11 September 1999

Ooops.....meant three:

Cosette~ "postcard", 'flip your heart over for a more breathtaking view'.........ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :-)))))

Angel


From: heart Song
Date: 11 September 1999

Happy Birthday Kevin!!!!

Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to my big ole BEAR
Happy Birthday to you!

I love you Honey!

Bee


From: heart Song
Date: 11 September 1999

My sweet Angel, Thank you!


From: Angel
Date: 11 September 1999

No problemo, Sis...and we are a wee bit early on the birthday hoopla...I knew that, did you? HAHAHAHAHA

Angel


From: Shadygirl fading_shade@hotmail.com
Date: 11 September 1999

Hi everyone...

just a quick hello. If you can believe it, I just submitted a bunch of recent stuff I've written. I miss sharing with you all so much. :-)

Hope everything is well!

Shady


From: Angel
Date: 11 September 1999

Welcome back, Shady! Loved "Atlantis", *smile*

Angel


From: deevaa
Date: 11 September 1999

<whispers to no one in general> its not Kevs Birthday til next week right?

<panics cause she is yet to post the card>


From: Rennie Lorca - Lorca@bigfoot.com
Date: 11 September 1999

Sorry for the mistake in the break on the last couple of lines in the Neruda piece (If You Forget Me)...my screen is too scrunched up today for me to clearly read it, and I won't take up the space to retype the entire piece for that one "Kbr>" that came out instead. Again, sorry. Neruda is such a master, so I cared to share him...........Rennie


From: Rennie Lorca - Lorca@bigfoot.com
Date: 11 September 1999

BRAVO, Angel!........Rennie


From: ZoE
Date: 11 September 1999

Hey HeArTSoNg xOxo
tHaNkS COseTte
hAppY bIrThDaY kEvIn
-ZoE


From: dgamble1@mich.com
Date: 11 September 1999

The poems are great, it would be nice if your entire site was made so they could be sent to someone via e-mail - or am I just not seeing that they can be.


From: kevin urenda
Date: 11 September 1999

<blushing PROFUSELY>

heart
ZoE

Thanks, darlins', but it is not my b-day for ten more days yet! Aren't I OLD enough yet??? *grin*

almost 38, not-so-great...

-k


From: heart Song
Date: 11 September 1999

(((Blushing Profushly))))

THANKS ANGEL!!!! geesh!!!! (yeah, we knew that)


Kevin, it's Angels fault, you know how she tends to get
excited and ahead of herself!
Kevin, you are not a gentlman for pointing that out!!! Now, you've made us Ladies feel silly! LOL You sir, are no gentleman, but your getting to be and old one! LOL Just kidding! Love
You,


Heart!!!


From: Angel
Date: 12 September 1999

Hahaha...MY FAULT? Heart, I cannot help it if you would follow me anywhere! *SMILE* I just had no poem to post :-( been dry lately, 'til KEVIN INSPIRED lol. Was going to save it for the US mail...and will send it that way too, but thought I'd share it here as well to let everybody know what a super terrific friend Kevin is...even though he was 'RUDE':-)))))))))))) He knows we both value his friendship deeply...deeply enough to start the birthday wishes a week in advance *smile* You, Kevin and I have a special bond...and you know thoughts of you lingered all through that poem as well...one day , we shall meet :-)

Angel


From: kevin urenda
Date: 12 September 1999

Heart

Guess I am just getting cantankerous in my old age!

-k


From: tazz_53@hotmail.com
Date: 12 September 1999

There are some really good poems here but, i would like some really funny ones to.
Luv,
Taryn


From: yourtigh@aol.com
Date: 12 September 1999

Deevaa
hey lady i just did what you are doing (to my ex after 16years )I went to see him, didnt know what to feel ,was scared to almost death~smile~
all I can say is it was worth it !
I didnt have any expections!
if you dont have any expections you cant be hurt , becuse they cant let you down ! think about it ! its something I had to learn about love and realationships!
and will worth it!
hope you have a wonderful time !
be careful !

Just Me ~Becky


From: heart Song
Date: 12 September 1999

Angel, Your right about that, you and Kevin and I have been friends for a very long time! And hopefully we will be friends forever and I do believe that one day we will meet!!!!!

Thanks Kirk for bringing us together.

I wonder alot what has happened to the old group and I'm so happy that we are still around.

Kevin, Angel, Shady, Zoe, Deevaa, Rennie. I'd miss you guys if you were gone!

Lots of love,

heart


From: Grantger
Date: 12 September 1999

I really loved your poem! Your new aren't you? ME too.


From: heart Song
Date: 12 September 1999

Atlantas,

Ah, the first kiss is really rememerable isn't it! Great piece of your heart.

Melissa


Date: 13 September 1999

By SABRINA
I Love


From: deevaa = sick girl
Date: 13 September 1999

I can't believe this!!! I am flying out in only a few days and feel like yucky things!... <pout> My throat is itchy, my ears are blocked, my head is pounding, I can't breath... I ache.... someone wave their magic wand and make me better fo my flight... 4 more sleeps!

dee


From: Angel
Date: 14 September 1999

Natalianna~"why i am no longer afraid of bridges", uniquely done.

ajTong~"Sabotage", Boy do I know that feeling!

deevaa~"Movie Stars and Me", Sounded much like a secret I hold...PS: Relax, and enjoy your trip, it is yours :-)

Angel


From: nataliaanna@yahoo.com
Date: 14 September 1999

To Kevin:

"I Love You" was exquisite...i was breathless

thankyou!


From: Crystal cwilkinson_85@hotmail.com
Date: 14 September 1999

Hey ya'll! Just wondering what you thought of "JAWBREAKER"?
Do you have any tips I could use? Please reply, I need all the help I can get!!


From: Deb
Date: 15 September 1999

THE GUPPY;
Restless -- I understand, I feel it.


NATALIANNA;
Why am I no longerafraid of bridges? -- very well done.


From: deevaa with suitcase
Date: 15 September 1999

<grin> My last big read before I leave!
Just two sleeps to go now... I'll be sure to stop in each time I find a cyber cafe to let you all know how (and what) I'm doing.

Kev --
'Spinning' was sweet, just like you handsome. <blows birthday kisses> and those are for next week, don't use em up now!

Art dog --
I LOVED 'sitting in a bar' , "nice earrings though" LOL LOL LOL ohhh I must remember to wear earrings!!!!

The Vampire --
"In my hand", beautiful. WOW.

Guppy, Guppy, Guppy --
I liked 'Chained' but 'record' .... OMG! again... LOL LOL LOL... you are too funny for this kiwi chick!
I can't wait to get to Chicago so you can take me out dancing... <grins knowing she is pushing her luck>

Shady --
I loved your purge... you rock!
whooohoooooooo and watch out NYC in early Oct, cause the deevaa babe and the shady lady are going SHOPPING!!! Stand back ya'll!

I'd best go...
Take care of your hearts while I'm gone...

dee


From: deevaa
Date: 15 September 1999

sweet, sweet sinneD....
I just got done reading your purge... my god Cosette is a lucky girl.... 'I need you' <sigh> that is so truly beautiful... Thats a keeper for sure... thankyou for sharing your love!

dee


From: nataliaanna@yahoo.com
Date: 16 September 1999

to sinnnD:

"rain" inspired me to tears...and pulled words out of me that are in homage to and inspired by your thoughts...would you mind if i printed it here...??? It is a "Variation on a Theme of sinnD" I don't know if that is appropriate in poetry...i am a musician and divorce lawyer by trade...i am first trying my hand at this to heal the terrifying loss of my soulmate


From: Angel
Date: 16 September 1999

Kevin~"I Love You", WOW! Great way to look at love...as something that is never complete and ever changing...:-)
Oh, and birthday boy...YOU GOT MAIL...the REAL kind *wink*

Angel


From: Deb
Date: 16 September 1999

sinneD,

<sigh> i need you .... rainbow... WOW!!
I appreciate your submissions.
Deb


From: dQ
Date: 16 September 1999

I can't go the right speed for you it may seem...
Intimate and lightened by your glow
Gone...the connection, the waiting, the joys of the slow.

A bit less, a smile removed, a voice unheard...
No message waiting, hoping, wanting for the sound
of another who feels the path, and hears the the same ground.

How do you find the time now that there is so much to do...
Remember just sitting by the pool and thinkin' crazy?
Being bored together, "Hey, lets go to the drive-in movies".

Are those days gone where there are too many hours in a day?...
Not enough friends to just hang around and I wondered,
How events slip away and my dreams get plundered.

But they're alive (a bit beat up), perhaps a bit more prescious...
These dreams of life, love and simple laughter.
If they aren't meant for me just now, maybe after...



From: Angel
Date: 17 September 1999

Toklas~ "Singing to Siwash", Very well written and beautiful...I especially enjoyed the line, 'Seaweed clusters around your base in little tangled skirts, like lover's clothing hastily discarded.'

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 17 September 1999

Sinne D~ "Panhandler", and the rest of your purge <sigh>

Angel


From: sinneD
Date: 17 September 1999

hey gang...God, i missed all of you. ive been in a tight spot and my pen just sorta ran out of ink... :) its good to see all of you are still here, and to the new contributors, thanks for sharing your works. im glad to be back.

'nataliaanna@yahoo.com' and Deb, thanks for the compliments. and Dee, u've been missed by this guy...

im off to read some more of this months subs.

ILY Cosette


From: Angel
Date: 17 September 1999

Guppy~ "Chained", *smile*

Angel


From: Jenna Holland (poetic_angel@gurlmail.com)
Date: 18 September 1999

Angel-
"I Call Upon Moses" .. right now in my life that one fit right in.. really nice...

-Jenna-


From: Stupid Cupid
Date: 18 September 1999

MARIA AT 8.58 P.M.

Mine are the thoughts that linger too long
On the words you said to me
They may be just words to you
but to me they sound like a hate song


PLAYGROUND BETWEEN MY RIBS

You open it up and play for a while
But when the kids have all gone
I'm left here with nothing but sand running
through my fingers


From: Angel
Date: 19 September 1999

Stupid Cupid~ I liked "Playground Between My Ribs", YOu need to put it on the submission page though so it will be included with the others for possible front page selection.

Angel


From: Tattler
Date: 19 September 1999

James the plagarists has come to our midst to steal lines of poetry that would be hard pressed to miss!


From: The Guppy
Date: 20 September 1999

angel,

ha...reasoning...love the dark sarcasm :)


From: amardeep singh
Date: 20 September 1999

thank you very much for helping me understand and enabling me to express my feelings to me love


From: heart Song
Date: 20 September 1999

Just have a moment to say hello. I haven't had time to read the new submissions yet, but hopefully soon! Just wanted to say hi to the gang!

Love Ya

heart!


Date: 20 September 1999

What happened to the saying in the Blend-o-matic with the reference to "friend of my mind" ?


From: Toklas blee@direct.ca
Date: 21 September 1999

Maggie Mink, "Dancing out the Plank" just hit me right in the gut. I don't know how else to describe it. That is such a wildly uncertain moment in the cycle of love that we have all felt.

You made me feel the exact moment. I literally sucked in my breath as I read. There was something very satisfying in having those feelings so perfectly captured--a mutual human understanding shared.


From: Angel
Date: 21 September 1999

Yes, "Dancing Out The Plank" was Great, Maggie......

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 21 September 1999

Tricia~ I really enjoyed your submissions..."Waves" and "Welcome Mat", Both beautifully written and powerful in their message...:-)

Angel


From: Angel
Date: 21 September 1999

HAPPY BIRTHDAY , Kevin :-)))))))) TODAY IS THE DAY!

Angel


From: Toklas blee@direct.ca
Date: 21 September 1999

Angel, thank you for your comments on "Siwash Rock."

And Angel, I really liked "Beware Full Nights," (especially the sneaky rat, "All aglow and nicely fat
From chewing secrets full of holes.")
And I really can relate to "Off Switch." You nailed that one!


From: heart Song
Date: 21 September 1999

Happy Birthday Kevin! :-)


From: sinneD
Date: 21 September 1999

Kev, have a nice one...happy bday.


From: kevin urenda
Date: 21 September 1999

Angel, Heart, SinneD

Thank you ALL for your good wishes
I have needed them on this day
The world doesn't care whose b-day it is!
But I am VERY thankful for the blessings of my friends...

-K

p.s.- I have been EXTREMELY busy this month, but will comment soon on the works that have struck the strings in my heart. I AM reading when I can... Keep writing and loving everyone!


From: Margot
Date: 22 September 1999

hello
do You know what happened to X????
it was so cool poetry


From: kevin urenda, kluless70@hotmail.com
Date: 22 September 1999

Back to the POETRY... Some commentary now (begin purge)... Bear with me please, for I am going back to the beginning of the month.

Madison-
The last three lines of "Take Care" ar beautifully done. The "peeling back" of time through the sentiment often does reveal the words that appear on these webpages. Very nice.
And the metaphor of tying "thoughts to paper kites" in "Angel Man" is WONDERFUL... Thanks for inspiring me with that one.

Heart-
My friend, everyone hands "Empty Hands" that are reaching out to be filled. May yours continue to be.

Crystevin-
The true "Nature of Man" IS unfortunately to wander about searching that emptiness, rather than stopping and waiting for love. You ask the questions that not everyone even knows they should. Well done.
And in "Choose Love" you reveal the truth that everyone ignores from time to time. We all do indeed "create our own joy and sorrow" based on what we have all experienced. This poem made me come up with the question of whether it is more dangerous to be self-effacing and self-deprecating, or to be narcissitic? And that begs the question of WHO exactly is fooled? The self we see in the mirror? Or the self we see through others? For a balanced individual is cute AND ugly, smart AND unwise, giving AND self-absorbed. Balance is vital...
In the "Solace" of EVERYONE'S heart, including "...the most cynical..." I do pray that "...hope carries on..." Nice work...

Deb-
Good question of most men, why do we NOT "Just say it"? Ah, but it is the "terror of rejection"... Not JUST fear...

Gupster-
"restless" is well done, sir. You have unearthed a truism for ALL of us poets in the line "these inky lines define my cage..." Sometimes our words paint us ointo a corner, don't they?
And WOW, what an inspired thought "record" must have sprung from. THAT is POETRY...

Nataliaanna-
"Why i am no longer afraid of bridges" is an intersting and refreshing way of looking at relationships. Thanks for sharing.

Dear Deevaa-
WOW... "movie stars and me" is gorgeous, just like you, hon. Hope you are enjoying the States!

Rennie-
Pablo Neruda is a poet whose work makes me despair sometimes at my feeble attempts at this art of poetry. His lush strokes of the pen paint a passionate love I try my best to live, and occasionally to write about. Thanks for sharing his poems with everyone...

Shady-
In "Childlike-ness" I loved the lines "...care is not easily accepted/from an ignorant embrace." Indeed, lovers MUST know EXACTLY what they are doing AND why. The mind MUST always be engaged (as with the REST of the person - heart, body and soul). Take care of our Dee!!!

Cosette-
The metaphor of "baking brownies from... every heartache" almost left me wanting to "smell [your] tears..." Thanks for gifting us with "26 candles."

wen-
You captured the feelings I get with the love of my life STILL with the juxtaposition of "nervous and familiar" in your work "Reflection." Those butterflies don't ever go away if you are TRULY in love...

Tricia-
Your works "Plane crash" and "WELCOME Mat" leave me hungering for more... I absolutely adored these poems and CAN'T WAIT to read more from you...

WHEW... (end purge)
I am pleased to see such new and refreshing work from everyone... Keep loving and writing everyone!

-K


From: Rennie Lorca - Lorca@bigfoot.com
Date: 22 September 1999

Happy Birthday, Kevin!

Thanks for the comment on Neruda. Seems like I just kept seeing him discussed everywhere I have been lately. He had such passion, and his verses make me really feel true, intense emotions. So, I enjoyed sharing him, once again.........Rennie


From: Maggie Mink
Date: 22 September 1999

Dear Angel and Toklas,

So simple, somehow I even like my own poem this time. "Dancing Out the Plank" was something I needed to express. Thanks for enjoying it with me! I really appreciate your comments on it.

I keep up with the work that both of you do...I am impressed, and more, enjoy it...often. Yes, I go back and read all your poems again. That way I know a poem has really moved me. Thanks!

I enjoy so many lines and poems from the poets on this site. I hope to see all of you continue to write with romance, love, and such passion like I see here.

And, Happy Birthday, Kevin!

Maggie Mink


From: kristi
Date: 22 September 1999

DEB
Love Hurricane Stevr, it's nice to see your work again, I've missed it. Hope to see more in the future. :)


From: Maggie Mink -- writerRwretch@hotmail.com
Date: 22 September 1999

I have had three people write me who know I write prose in line first. So, they have requested that I do Logistique that way for them -- give them the line breaks. Here it is if anyone else cannot read it the other way:

Logistique by Maggie Mink

Inventory: polished armour, mended threads; <br>
and you well-bandaged from another fray. <br>
... for all this, you leave me again -- <br>
off on some great quest ... <br>
and me, avoiding the void in mindless chores; <br>
until I look out and see my gate unguarded. <br>

Hope this helps, or makes you more comfortable with the form. Thank you, Sarge and guys, for keeping up with me.
Semper Fi, Maggie Mink


From: Deb
Date: 22 September 1999

Kevin;
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!


From: Diana
Date: 23 September 1999

i thiink this site is really great, and i have read every single of
poems and stories and i would really like it if i could visit other sites

which is as beautiful as this sit, so i suggest if you could add a

some kind of web links to other sites.


From: Diana
Date: 23 September 1999

i think this site is really great, and i have read every single of

poems and stories and i would really like it if i could visit other sites

which is as beautiful as this site, so i suggest if you could add a

some kind of web links to other sites.


From: tonya , tonya@oregontrail.net
Date: 23 September 1999

ok....one last comment regarding the issue of gender bias and love sucks..all rolled into one. if you think about it...love sucks due to gender bias. if we were the same, meaning men and woman, life might be a bit less painfull but a whole lot more dull. by nature the sexes are DIFFERENT and will always be that way. when im looking for a lover, im not looking for a man who is feminine, or who is like me...likes everything that i do..but a MASCULINE man who i have things in common with, but who lets me be ME. a man who compliments me, not as in "honey, you look great" but as in a perfect fit....two sides of one thing may have the same shape, but are not the same substance, the same atoms. alike, but not the same. love is a choice my friends, please remember that...its about chosing one person and making it work. i heard that once when i was growing up, and again in a movie a while ago and truly belive it. you make the choice to be unhappy. you make the choice to let negativity make you weaker instead of positiviy making you stronger. as far as jlor goes, please by all means share your opinions, but be adult about it. this is an open forum, good and bad, and all are welcome. if our generation can be about one thing, please let it be about acceptance. acceptance of those different from us without preexisting standards. love me for me and the way i make you feel, not for what i can give you or promise you. ones goal in a day should to be to make those around you feel good...feel LOVE, wether it be a friendship kinda love or a deep, passionate love. when it all comes down to it, and it was you all alone, an island, a planet whereever, your memories and experiences and feelings are all that YOU ARE..everything else is just MATERIALS...man cant make emotion and theres a good reason for it. its a natural high or low, and something availible to everyone regardless of race, status, money, marital status, sexual preference..you get the idea. share the wealth people..share your overabundance of love and goodwill. its free. getting back ot men and women, rejoice in our differences and choose to surround yourself with those who you find interesting and positive. if you chose "bitches or jerks" then thats the stories that you will have to share. i refuse to spend my precious time with those who are negative or whose sole purpose is to bring others down. not to sound like im into myself...but im a great catch. i take care of myself and am proud of what i accomplished. im here at this point in my life because of the choices i made..GOOD OR BAD..you cant change the past so get over it, learn from it and move on. i coudl dwell on any negatives but i choose not too. your life is alllllll about your choices and if you learned or gained from them. you are adults and responsible for your body, mind, and soul. if everyone took as much time worring about their souls as they did their pocketbooks..we would be one awesome planet. off my soapbox and on with MY LIFE cuz guess what folks, if i dont get my bum off this chair and away from this computer..no one else will and my life will be a stand still. go out and enjoy life and its gifts...dont sit in your chairs and dwell on the negatives and the what ifs. if sadness is your choice, and you can produce great sadness poetry that others enjoy...then know that thats your choice..and there is some good in it. THE GLASS IS HALF FULL PEOPLE! have a wonderful day, be good to each other. deeva - you are a blessed artist, i truly enjoy your work guppy - you know what i think, youre great!! a bit on the, well, completepsyshomaniac side but hey, youre my bud. cry - your poety is filled with true emotion, you can capture humanity like no other. mvr - you go girl. i love your work. kevin - thanks for all your hard work on this site, its wonderful, all of it. kisses all!


From: tonya
Date: 23 September 1999

sorry that was soooo long....forgive??? i was a typing fool! kisses!


From: sarah dragonfleyes@msn.com
Date: 24 September 1999

tonya made me think of a theory i had when i was in high school, and its developed more for me since then.

i call it, my adam and eve theory.

that somehow, back in the begining were of the same flesh, that we were each a part of each other.

but we were seperated.

and then throughout our lives we are searching for those ones
that are the same flesh as us.

and that when we find that one, we will know, that we will fit.......

because we were once the same. and nothing is stronger then that.

just a theory.

sarah (the gnome)


From: Crystevin
Date: 24 September 1999

Kevin-Thank you for your thoughtful comments on each of those works. I really respect your insight and ability to see the front, back and in between of my simple expressions.
and by the way.."happy belated birthday"

Tonya-What flattering comments. You humble me. Thank you for such nice words.

-Crystevin


From: tonya, tonya@oregontrail.net
Date: 24 September 1999

kirk....WONDERFUL work, this is a great site...it was pointed to me that i typed kevin not kirk...so many "k"s...=) kevin - i enjoy your work also, i see a strong understanding of emotion and relationships in your writing, a wise man. (aka - a strong understanding of women - ha!) keep up the good work.
is there anyone else out there that revels in our differences also? im independent but i dont wanna take the garbage out! ha = )
a true optimist by nature....i hope i didnt make anyone keel over in sickness. i learned along time ago that life is too short and we are TOO mortal to dwell..anyway..ill quiet my busy fingers..
cry - one word sums it up - passion...you ooze it...
have a wonderful day and take care of your selves!
kisses
tonya


From: TheVampire
Date: 24 September 1999

Wow, Tonya....what passion you have for LIFE...damn girl!
I just read you long, but much to the point comment.
You seem to have a very very straight head on your shoulders
and yet a strong heart full of emotions. I could only hope to ever find a women like you.... WELL DONE!


From: the bumski guppy
Date: 24 September 1999

kev...

what exactly is a bumski???....hehe...i am so much in the doghouse...can't wait til dee gets back to rip on me some more...at least i got to talk with her on the phone

tonya...eh nuthin...enjoy your guy :)

gnomey...er...dragonfleyes...er dragonflees...you...um, hope all is well with ya...nice to see your writing

ok...bye now
gup


From: kevin urenda
Date: 25 September 1999

Gupster Man
Anyone who would leave our Dee ALL ALONE on a Friday night in Chicagoland in her FIRST night in the States IS A BUMSKI, dude...
*grin*
I MUST say I was HONORED that she would call lil' ol' ME on her first day here JUST to wish me a happy birthday... <sigh>

THANK YOU, each and every one for the good wishes this week... I probably could not have made it through such a lousy week without them...

-k


From: misti
Date: 25 September 1999

God, it feels so good to be back! I have been experiencing serious Blender withdrawal symptoms! I'm going to have to ask Santa for a computer for Christmas.
For those of you who know my story, i thought I'd fill ya in right quick. Brian dumped me last weekend. He said maybe we should spend some time apart to see if he misses me!!!! He has told me for four and a half months that he isn't in love with me. I guess I was just hoping he'd fall, eventually. I still have NO REGRETS. We made quite a few good memories. I'm hoping we can still be friends 'cause that was the best part of our relationship.
I still have my job at the newspaper. I write a movie review every week. Actually, a video rental review since I don't go to the cinema that often. I highly recommend "go" and "flirting with disaster." I did see "Sixth Sense" last weekend and it made me cry. I loved the ending. I didn't expect it at all.
My new favorite song is "Mambo #5". I danced to that song in my bedroom yesterday on my lunch break 'til I was sweating. It was great.

Love,
Misti


From: deevaa in Columbus!!!
Date: 25 September 1999

<grin> seeing as the deevaa babe was stood up for her date in Chigago by the bumski-guppy I flew out to Columbus a day early! God, I brought a 5hr phone card for that Friday night all alone in a hotel room in Chicago... and thanks to Kev, Guppy, unit305 and my kiwi buddy I am staying with here... its ALLLLLLLLLlllll gone!

I've written some words to submit... but haven't brought my journal with me to the computer... so I'll have to submit later.

Japan is the most amazing country, I loved it, if anyone gets to go there do it! You don't know what friendly is until you get there!!!!

Apart from being ALL alone in Chicago <grinning at someone who won't be allowed to forget that in a long whiles> it seemed like a real nice place, Columbus seems nice too, we went to 'German-town' today and had a ball!

<deevaa's got a gin-buzz on right now if you couldn't tell>

I'll submit as soon as I can.. and not only happy birthday Kev, but to my own wee sweetheart TK... I hope you had the best birthday ever baby boy... mumma misses ya now though!

dee!


From: Kirk, Blender-Keeper
Date: 26 September 1999

Hey Guys-
I'm almost back from a Florida vacation with Mo... I need to clean up this board page a little, like the errant poetry submission.

Anyway, Sarah Dragonfleyes, I've heard theories like that before- there's a famous one, Greek I think?, that says people were originally four footed creatures that were then divided into two, male and female, by a jealous God, and that we search around looking for that other completing half. Well, to be honest, I couldn't disagree more. Besides being blatantly heterosexist, I don't think love is that simple, a search for the one "right" person. I don't want to be able to dismiss a relationship that doesn't work out by saying "oh well, must not have been the 'right' one"- my past romances are too precious to me- and I don't want to give my new relationships the burden of having to be the perfect alpha and omega. I've genenerally found the search for "perfection" to be ultimately a destructive impulse.


From: kevin urenda, kluless70@hotmail.com
Date: 26 September 1999

I must agree with Kirk, up to a point (I insist that the love of my life IS "the One," as blessed as I have been to love and be loved by her). Each relationship is so precious, that it is completely wrong to pull the "oh well, must not have been ..." trick, for to do so dimishes the love that was shared. Love is NEVER wasted. The more you give, the more you have, for both are infinite (if it sounds familiar, it IS, thanks wo Wm. Shakespeare). And on the point of perfection. If you begin with the premise that human beings are inherently IMperfect, you must logically conclude that what they create is tainted by that imperfection. Therefore a "perfect" love is unattainable. Love is hard enough without plcing unreasonable expectations on it. It is meant to be hard work, yet so very easy... It creates the ultimate happiness within you, yet can cause the worst pain... A real relationship includes all these things, built on a foundation of lasting committment. Love is, well, LIFE (to end on one last cliche).

-k


From: kevin again
Date: 26 September 1999

p.s.
sorry for the typos
: - (


From: kevin urenda, kluless70@hotmail.com
Date: 26 September 1999

MVR-

I could not be ANY more pleased to see your return, as well as the return of your work. I am truly sorry about the demise of the life with Brian...
However, in the vein of what was said above, the desires you expressed in "gone" are not all lustful (I did NOT miss that!). And for me, the one SINGLE desire that stands out in your poem as well as in my life is that my lover IS

"the mystery
[I am] determined
to solve"

Thanks for that, Misti.

-k


From: ANGEL
Date: 26 September 1999

Oh!!! MISTI...YOu just sent me on the wildest emotional ride...<wiping tears from my eyes> YOUR PURGE.....WOW!!!!
Brian, You YOu YOU, GRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I loved them all, Misti...my favorites were,"from depraved to craved", "Phoenix Ashes", and "he tells me kindly that i suck." YOU are the BEST!!!

Angel


From: Jenna Holland (poetic_angel@gurlmail.com)
Date: 26 September 1999

MVR- I am definately glad you are back I forgot what it was like to read such passion and GREAT work. All the recent ones are amazing (as usual.) I myself have defianltly been in a writing drought. Hopefully a spark of inspiration will occur soon!

-Jenna-


From: sarah dragonfleyes@msn.com
Date: 26 September 1999

i must comment.

i haven't checked this thing or my computer since i posted that last message, so this might lose all of the oompht that it once would of had.

but on the topic of true love, and perfection, and so on so on and so forth...........

i don't believe in the story book fairy tale romance love. but i do believe in that deep passionate love that just sweeps you up completely and takes you away in its crimson tide. And i'm not talking that lovey dovey sweet sappy kinda love that hits us all at one time or another. I am talking about that seering of your soul with that other person, that blending of two hearts that are so inexplecibly intertwined that you just can't understand the meaning of the word seperation anymore. And i don't think i have ever truly expereinced this to the extent that others have, but i feel it and i see it in my dreams, i see it in the people i watch around me, and in the laughter and yearning in peoples eyes as they look at each other, and when they are seperated from each other.

No i don't believe life is about searching for that perfect soulmate, that could farther from what i believe about the precepts of love. But i do believe that each person you are with brings you to where you need to be at that point in your life, whether they teach you things about yourself that you dislike or like. It is all a learning and growing process for you. And if you can take things like that from each relationship, i think that rocks the freakin casbah.

But if its that true love, that deep passionate abiding love that can supercede the rules that govern our daily our rule oriented lives, and i know it exists, and its not that i question if it it exists, i feel it and i know it, am sure of it. It will be found, and that is what brought me to my adam and eve theory. That is what made me think of that, flawed creatures that we are, we have more power then anything else i can think of, when we find that person we are meant to be with........and that right that, is power......

sarah

sorry for the length and typos!


From: tonya, tonya@oregontrail.net
Date: 27 September 1999

thevampire- thanks....but....give me a guy who can light my fire and have it last longer than the warranty on new electronic purchases...ha! i think that relationships fuel my poetry though...so it all weighs out..you are very sweet...what about your thoughts on love and men/women? *wink*
guppster - will you come out of retirement like micheal jordan and all the rest? ha....your poetry - nice, nice
misti - maybe....just maybe....brian wont realize what he had till its gone....its been known to happen. =) good luck...
sarah - amen!! = )
kisses to all,
tonya


From: Victor ( VictorVDV2@aol.com
Date: 27 September 1999

My name is Victor Valdez II, I come from San Diego, California. I attend to R.I.T. Rochester Institute of Technology, it's my first year. Eversince I was a child I wrote poetry from the depths of my heart. I was born deaf and I live today in the quietness of the earth,with all these questions in my mind about so many difeent things, Love, life, And Happiness. Somewhere in time, I wanted the world to hear what I had to say and to show how I feel, as if you stood in my own shoes. SO i write poetry to make you understand In my own simple words...

I wrote a poem recently Called " What Sweet Dreams May come" check it out if you would like...


From: deb
Date: 27 September 1999

half full... half empty... either way, it isnt enough.


From: tonya, tonya@oregontrail.net
Date: 27 September 1999

it is enough for me. be happy with what you have and strive for more but dont expect it. ta' ta'
tonya


From: misti <anemone26_99>
Date: 27 September 1999

Just a quick thank you to everyone for the compliments and comments on my recent submissions. It always does me good to come here. There are always so many great insights. I agree that each relationship should be cherished and shouldn't be discounted or condemned because it was less than perfect. As much as I am hurting right now, I am TRYING SO DAMN HARD not to be bitter and not to say,"Never again." I guess I'll keep taking risks and keep giving my heart away 'til the day I die. Love is worth all the risks. And I have to believe that all the love I have sent out will return to me someday.
Thanks, Kevin and Kirk and Deeva and Angel and whoever I've forgotten.


From: Dan serenity@eclipse.net
Date: 27 September 1999

Percival

God will always win, goodness always wins in the end, give it up you cannot have hope. You cannot take what is not yours.
Oh Percival, you think you are wise, you think you can put up a challenge with me? Your forgetting who I am and you don’t have the slightest notion of my power. How many times have I defeated you, and how many times you wish you could forget.
Why are you like this, why did you abondon goodness?
Goodness cannot live without me and vice versa, whererver there is goodness, there is evil, and wherever there is praise there is pride. For the scale of the univers is always struggling to balance itself out, if there is no balance, there is nothing. So there is comprimise.
No comprimise! we will always win! In the END goodness always wins.
And what is the END Percival? Your perception is of a child, you cannot get an answer when your questions and foundations are flawed. It is and has been for milleniums. I will, however, tell you that you have a choice. You can pick. But even the choice is dressed with a sprinke of my marinade.
You wont beat me and I am not afraid of you, I have God on my side to protect me!
Percival I have already beaten you, you have already been on my side, you have already accepted my offerings. YES! YOU have PICKED me as your god Percival.
You will suffer what the people you have hurt suffered, ten times their pain for eternity!
I cannot be punished without it extending to all of my followers. When I get punished Percival, the whole of the earth and its lost souls will bleed as I do, and so will you.
Im sure you like suffering and pain, thats what you are, but I dont and I wont.
Remember this Percival, without suffering and pain you cannot get to God, without darkness you cannot see the light, without an exam you cannot take a test. Without me, eternity would not exist and heaven would not be glory, For the universe is a constant struggle between good and eveil, love and fear but one cannot exist without the other, in order to love you cannot be afraid.


From: Danny - serenity@eclipse.net
Date: 27 September 1999

Percival

God will always win, goodness always wins in the end, give it up you cannot have hope. You cannot take what is not yours.
Oh Percival, you think you are wise, you think you can put up a challenge with me? Your forgetting who I am and you don’t have the slightest notion of my power. How many times have I defeated you, and how many times you wish you could forget.
Why are you like this, why did you abondon goodness?
Goodness cannot live without me and vice versa, whererver there is goodness, there is evil, and wherever there is praise there is pride. For the scale of the univers is always struggling to balance itself out, if there is no balance, there is nothing. So there is comprimise.
No comprimise! we will always win! In the END goodness always wins.
And what is the END Percival? Your perception is of a child, you cannot get an answer when your questions and foundations are flawed. It is and has been for milleniums. I will, however, tell you that you have a choice. You can pick. But even the choice is dressed with a sprinke of my marinade.
You wont beat me and I am not afraid of you, I have God on my side to protect me!
Percival I have already beaten you, you have already been on my side, you have already accepted my offerings. YES! YOU have PICKED me as your god Percival.
You will suffer what the people you have hurt suffered, ten times their pain for eternity!
I cannot be punished without it extending to all of my followers. When I get punished Percival, the whole of the earth and its lost souls will bleed as I do, and so will you.
Im sure you like suffering and pain, thats what you are, but I dont and I wont.
Remember this Percival, without suffering and pain you cannot get to God, without darkness you cannot see the light, without an exam you cannot take a test. Without me, eternity would not exist and heaven would not be glory, For the universe is a constant struggle between good and eveil, love and fear but one cannot exist without the other, in order to love you cannot be afraid.


From: Cosette
Date: 28 September 1999

MISTI,
great new subs, MISTI, esp. GONE, whew... that mystery phrase really stood out. thanks for sharing ur pieces here. i couldnt agree more on what you said abt past romances. i have really ugly experiences back then, but they were all good while they lasted. thats why LOVE is always celebrated on its coming, enjoyed for its duration and grieved upon on its leaving. all the emotions, thrills, pleasures and hardships one feels and experiences towards love makes it craved and sought for, completing our souls - inspiring us that someday the love we gave away will be there for us to keep. i dont know the extent of your heartaches, except for the pieces you submitted, i may sound too optimistic.... but i, for one, have experienced that ONLY LOVE explains things i doubted once before, in the sweetest ways...

Kev, Angel, Rennie
your words mean a lot to me, you are respected by this lady just hanging around here, dry and cant write a single decent, wonderful piece that would measure up to the wonderful works you submitted here. thanks for encouraging and sharing.

believe in Love,
Cos =)


From: Cosette
Date: 28 September 1999

OH BTW, Sarah, i agree on what u said, that each relationship is a learning experience. i think an old love we cant imagine going back to (take note! i'm not using any NEGATIVE ADJECTIVE here) are there to remind us how far we have come. they were all charged to experience.
thanks for the insights.


From: kristi
Date: 28 September 1999

DEB- In GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT- I 've been there before, i can relate. Great work .


From: Deb
Date: 28 September 1999

kristi, thank you for your comments and constant encouragement. {{HUGS}}


From: Rennie Lorca - Lorca@bigfoot.com
Date: 28 September 1999


Dear Cosette,

Always, thank you for your compliments....but, you really need to be thanking those fellows who inspired or dragged me down in my lifetime ... :) ... without them, I am a bottle of glue without a real secure top .........Rennie


From: kevin urenda
Date: 29 September 1999

Kirk-

Congratulations on your 600,000th hit (so soon after 500k). Thank you for your tirless efforts shepherding this little community. Thanks to all the silent readers out there (You know who you are)... And thanks to all my fellow poets...

-k


From: kevin again
Date: 29 September 1999

er, your TIRELESS efforts as well

(my spelling must be slipping in my old age! Sure sign of senility! I have made two errors in the last couple of days...)

-k


From: Tricia
Date: 29 September 1999

Kevin, Thank you, along with the rest of your readers, for sharing my heart through my poetry. Your comments were appreciated. I am certainly a novice compared to the rest of you, but truly feel that I have found fertile soil to nurture and grow my passion... poetry. I come here every morning to see what new and wonderful works will inspire me to write my very best, and face every day with hope and humor. Y'all are family now! I'll be watching you!


From: kevin urenda
Date: 29 September 1999

Tricia,

you are most welcome.
But one correction, "they" are OUR readers!
*smile*

-k


From: Deb
Date: 29 September 1999

heart song; A Mere Plea and Kindred Spirit... very well done. Thank you.


From: Kirk, Blender-Keeper
Date: 29 September 1999

Kevin-
Wow, I hadn't even noticed the 600K mark- guess I've been a little neglectful of my blenderly duties (luckily, in many ways it runs itself) At first realizing I got another 100K hits in around 4 months blew me away (see, I used to have a daily hit report mailed to me, but something broke and I haven't gotten around to fixing it yet.) Then I realized that's only an average of around 830 day. That's a lot more than the 470 hits/day lifetime average of the site
( http://info.digits.com/wc?--info=yes&--name=Kirk_sBlenderofLove) for this info, but about what I've come to expect from the site (even though the summer is traditionally slower than the rest of the year.) But, I'm not the hit monger I used to be. I don't want to grow the site beyond what I'm capable of handling by myself.


From: heart Song
Date: 29 September 1999

Deb, Your very welcome, and thank you so much. :-)


From: deevaa [deevaa@paradise.net.nz]
Date: 29 September 1999

heya heya heya!!

deevaa = happy travelin' girl right now!

I had a day-long date with one of my on-line friends yesterday, and it was WONDERFUL! I think that I maybe inspired to write something.. soon, real soon. But for now, I am happy just soaking in the sweet memories of the day, and wishing I had more time here.

I'll probally report in next from NYC with the Shady Girl -- off to Pittsburgh tomorrow morning.

dee


From: misti <anemone26_99>
Date: 29 September 1999

Thanks, Jenna and Cosette. Gotta run, the parade is here.


From: heart Song
Date: 29 September 1999

Plesantly Anonomous: "I Need You" the beauty of it was it's simplicity.

Hey Deevaa Baby! Glad you're having a good Trip!

Angel, where are you???
Kevin, your poetry is wonderful as usual!
Hi Kirk~
Hi everyone else, lots of wonderful things on the page this month.


From: Tricia
Date: 29 September 1999

Misti-
Man o'steel cracked me up, then made me sad. Really, really good work. (tweety bird on the ass..hilarious!)


From: pec714@worldnet.att.net
Date: 30 September 1999

i would like somehow to be able to read a poem titl


From: pec714@worldnet.att.net
Date: 30 September 1999

i would like somehow to be able to read a poem titled I Cried For You by Eve June 7 1998. Can you help me with this?


From: melissa
Date: 30 September 1999

KIRK! what happened to the 1998 issues? did you run out of space? i was looking for something that caught my eye in one of them a long time ago, and they aren't there anymore! help!


From: Daryl Popper (step-4-5 cousin)
Date: 30 September 1999

Hey I hope you got my last e-mail and i hope you read it! Tell Mo I said "HI." You know how you took those pictures of all the kids at the family reunion, well, I was looking at your pics on www.alienbill.com and saw some pictures, but none from the family reunion! I really think you should put at least one of those in, I hope I'm in it! Well, I guess this is goodbye for now! I will be checking for those pictures, next time I go online! Hope you have a great fall!

See you next Smith Family Reunion!

-DaRyL jEaNnEtTe PoPpEr



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