From: laurel ahlfeld<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

I am heartbroken that anyone would stoop as low as I saw tonight. I am probably the youngest of the blendies and my respect for this place has fallen drastically. Zero and Tickler are very similar... more than they might like to admit to and I don't know if I have the right to tell why, so I won't. BUT! They are not the same person. I went to church with these two, my brother played soccer with them,I sang in choir with them, I acted with them.  If they were the same person...wow, what an act! I never would've been able to figure that trick out. You need to leave Zero out of this. He tried to be a peacemaker, but apparently it was more fun to cause havok, so we ignored his pleas and dragged him into it. Zero is a beautiful but fragile person. Especially now. He doesn't need you telling him that he screwed up his relationship. He loved that girl and treated her right. I didn't see much of their relationship, but I know he did. He loves to be in love. I should know. I was lucky enough to be there once. I am not going to come to the defense of Tickler, however. I thought the comment was rude and uncalled for, but it is his opinion. Unfortunately he prefers not to sugar coat things. But he's a big boy and if he got himself into it, he'll have to drag himself out of it. As for Zero, how would you feel if you'd just been heartbroken and the people you thought were your friends were also against you? Wouldn't it make you wonder what's left living for. Maybe I'm psycho and depressed, but I sure as hell would. Reconsidder your words. If anyone of you ever pushed him over the edge, I swear I could never forgive you. Now, I must once again consider whether or not it is time for my poetry to find another home. The Brittany Spears immatator was one thing, but these are real people with real feelings. And Zero's are to be handled with care. I would appreciate appologies to him from all who have thrown unforgivable words. I'm sorry I had to get involved, but I'm not sorry for the things I've said. They had to be. <BR>
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*~guppy~* you write with beauty and grace. Your quirkiness helps me relate so much better. Please never let the harsh words of someone's opinion make you think less of your works. Art is a reflection of the soul. No one has the right to judge other's souls. You are the only one who can critique your art. I hope you will continue to grace my life with the few moments of shear joy I get from reading your work.
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From: lydia<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

ive never lost so much respect for so many great people in so little of time. i had taken a absence from the blender, and came back excited to read all the new submissions. so as usual i check th board just to see what everyone says, and i am shocked to see the horrible outbreak of bitterness, by god people.... get a clue, why bring such ugly things to such a beautiful establishment?
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From: laurel ahlfeld<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

On a happier note:<BR>
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*~Micheal~* Long time no see! agh! <BR>
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*~Frosted One~* Thank you yet again! You seem very familiar in some way...email me and we'll talk ;0Þ [email-masked]<BR>
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*~Zero~* Hey. Smile? How bout a good ol night of Braveheart? I'll bring the popcorn!<BR>
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*~Nikki~* Nice to see your smilin face again! <BR>
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*~Paul B~* I am aghast...I really don't know what to say right now....<BR>
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Haven't had time to read much...I may actually be falling in that perilous hole called "like" again. I doubt it'll hit that turn to "love" though. Not lucky enough...<BR>
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Sincerely?(Wondering what I should sign this as since my usual "love always" doesn't seem to fit the mood),<BR>
Laurel
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From: Paul B<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

Laurel - If you 'know' both of these people then why aren't you more upset at the way French has been talking to your fellow blenderites?  Some of the artists here are sensitive about their work so your 'friend' may not be the only fragile person here.  I stand by the observation and I did put a disclaimer on my previous comment.  If it is not the same person then ignore my comment.  BUT, it would appear from some of the other posts I'm not the only one who feels this way.  
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From: laurel ahlfeld<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

*~Paul B~* I was merely defending Zero and you seem to have taken it the wrong way. I didn't want dragged into the Tickler incident. I merely wanted to help correct the wrongs done to Zero. I repeat: I DO NOT want in the Tickler vs. the Blendies argument. Please respect this request Perhaps you missed these sentences in my post?<BR>
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"I am not going to come to the defense of Tickler, however. I thought the comment was rude and uncalled for, but it is his opinion. Unfortunately he prefers not to sugar coat things. But he's a big boy and if he got himself into it, he'll have to drag himself out of it."<BR>
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I do not approve of his behavior, but I cannot do anything but worry about myself. I love my friends despite their faults. Perhaps that says something about me? I'm still talking to you civily though I think putting me on the spot to chose between friends and sides is just as uncalled for. And if you didn't notice, I did encourage the guppy. Obviously that means I find him a friend too. I do not want to go any further into this discussion. Please, leave me out of the Tickler situation.<BR>
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Sincerely?(Again awkwardly ending this),<BR>
Laurel
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Date: 29 July 2000<P>

paul b and laurel---<BR>
i consider eveyone at this site someone special, so i care for all's feelings, but please put personal issues like that away. its so uncalled for it makes me sick. its not constructive in anyway, so it doesnt belong here. everyone has ther own persoanlity, jerk is even one. and when you dont agree with that, keep your peace and ignore it. it not worth the time, especially in such a busy word where no one has time for anything like that. please.
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

OK guys -- everyone... MOVE ON.... we don't need to waste time talent and energy on this. IGNORE comments if they are hurtful or totally banal.... why waste time, energy and space on it all.<BR>
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Hey I have an idea... why don't we all go read the new subs and then talk about what we've read... hows that for something new?<BR>
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dee
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From: terry<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

guppy~ 'scared'- Man have I been there and felt that way before...you always manage to communicate so much, so well, with your own unique style that I am constantly amazed at your talent. "it's a tired crawl to tomorrow" capped this one very nicely!<BR>
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Zero 1~ 'My Own Devil' was a very vivid work, with an undertone of psychological distress. Very well written.<BR>
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Kiwi~ 'Teardrops and Sunshine' was very well written. Thanks for sharing the story in verse.<BR>
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t.<BR>
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From: The Frosted One<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

hey everyone!<BR>
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well i agree with laurel. i swear if people have no better time then to set around talking about stupid stuff then they aren't worth it. so Zero #1 keep your head up and don't let anyone get you down. people who are childish and immature don't need to be taken seriously. <BR>
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laurel don't worry i'll email soon. keep up the good work. <BR>
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everyone needs to grow up and be a little bit more conciderate of other people's feelings. <BR>
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always<BR>
The Frosted One
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From: Michael (hello)<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

Laurel ~ I'm trying to keep cool. I've felt like a "fruit fly". Nice to see you too.
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From: Barney<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

Yo, frostbite.  I'm assuming you are talking about French Tickmeoff, right?
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From: Angel<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

oh YES Dee, reading and commenting on poetry!!!...could it be that that was what this whole forum was designed for in the first place? I am off to read right now...i am so far behind...but will say now that your art and poetry has grown so over the months, Dee ,and I look forward to each and every one of your posts...as i do the Guppy and Gala and Kevin and so many others here that leave me in awe of their soulfilled works...toodles.....OH my! I miss ShadyGirl now:(
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From: Zero #1<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

Hello again everyone. I'm completely aghast that you all think I'm someone else. Has anyone ever thought that I have an identical twin????? Maybe that's why we spelled the SAME word wrong???? Hmm...sounds interesting. <BR>
But you probably want to pin the patsy on me so go ahead and to all you you who think that...WHATEVER!<BR>
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Terry~~~Thank you for the comments on MY OWN DEVIL. I actually wrote that from a nightmare that I had once. It was very scary for me, so I tried to make it scary for everyone else. Thanx for the self-esteem boost!! =)
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From: Zero #1<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

Laurel~~~Thank you for believing in me. It seems that you know me just a little too well. Not that I mind though....Oh, and about that night o' Braveheart..I think I like the sound of that! =)<BR>
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For everyone else, I'm sorry for all this commotion and I do not hold it against you. As for the poetry right now,,my hearts really not into it. I'll eventually catch up, but not now. I'm having a really tough time right now.<BR>
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Oh, and for you, I did ignore the comment, but I want you to  know that I loved her...and I treated her right. Our 6 month relationship wasn't ended in hate,,it was ended in friendship. I'm not handling it all too well, but with the help of my friends I will. Grant, I have my faults...but so does everyone. I don't appreciate that comment though and it hurts me A LOT to know that someone would even write that. She was my life. Now she's gone. Salt in an open wound ya know? Anyways, I look forward to eveyone's new subs when I start to read them again. Until then, keep on writin, and keep looking toward the stars...(but not the sun, it can burn your eyes lol)<BR>
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Sincerely and Heartfelt,<BR>
Kurtis
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From: nikki<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

Wow...I go out for one night and the place falls into turmoil.<BR>
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Thank you to everyone who commented on 'Looking'.  It's not that I didn't like what it was trying to say, I just think I could have done a better job of it.<BR>
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Anyway, trying to tpye with a hangover is not working for me, as I am hitting the delete button almost as much as the other ones.  So I'll be back later.<BR>
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On a more personal note, I hope this whole discussion that has been brewing is passing by and done with.  I just want to this to you all...we are all artists, whether anyone likes our work or not is not the point.  I don't know about anyone else, but I write for me, and if it happens to do something for someone who reads it, so be it.  Write for yourselves, because you love it, and take everything that is said after with a grain of salt.  sheesh, people, I know you are all better than this.<BR>
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later lovebugs...~nikki
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From: kevin urenda<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

I agree with my dear friend Nikki, except that what seems to have happened was that someone attacked Gala (another dear  friend of mine) for sticking up for Guppy.  Now I am not of a mind to comment on ANY poetry, which is really a sad turn of events (although I am sure my words aren't missed around here THAT much...).<BR>
Not only that, I have been around here long enough (is two years THAT long?) to have seen people posting under several "personalities", which is something the anonymity of the web makes not only possible, but 'normal.'<BR>
I have also seen a few good poets driven away from this place by mean-spirited attacks.  Whether a comment is driven by spite or sport, jealousy or jest, the coin of this realm is words.  If you traffic in counterfeit coinage, expect the wrath of the skeptical, especially if you cannot be up front about your identity.  And if you, whoever you are, make a comment that CAN wound, rest assured that someone WILL be offended.  Whether that's reaping what you sow, or "what goes around comes around", or karma, or &lt;insert trite saying of choice here&gt;, it doesn't matter.  This place IS about poetry and other sets of words loosely tied to the theme of romance.  All the stuff around the periphery is tiresome to everyone who IS serious about their writing...  <BR>
If anyone ends up being driven away, we will all be the lesser for it.<BR>
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On a lighter note, I really commend Terry (for one) who has risen above the fray and stayed on topic (kudos to you, friend)...<BR>
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k
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From: deevaa ([email-masked])<BR>
Date: 29 July 2000<P>

kirk -- sorry about stuffing up the HTML click... (covers her head) promise to do better next time.<BR>
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Terry, your shakespeare moment was wonderful -- thankyou for sharing.<BR>
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Chris W, thankyou for letting me team up with you... you amaze me with words sometimes handsome.<BR>
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Speaking of handsome Hank C.... (wink) miss you.<BR>
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Gala, I re-read 'sweetheart dance'.. wow, wow, wow....<BR>
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Kevin, friend to friend.... it was great of you to commend Terry, its just a pity you couldn't be lead by example.<BR>
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Angel -- 'love demon' .... (giggling) too cute.<BR>
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Paul B -- you did a great job with 'Awakening my senses '<BR>
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"When we make love, it’s the best dejevu<BR>
Awakening my senses one by one" -- mmmmm nice.... I think its one of  the best I've read or yours.<BR>
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take care of your hearts<BR>
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dee<BR>
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Date: 29 July 2000<P>

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I have yet to find a good love poem.  Not one on heartbreak, or sadness, or a sarcastic commentary on love, I mean an expression of love that speaks to the heart.  That makes the reader feel the passion in their breast.  "somewhere I have never travelled, gladly beyond" by cummings is the closest I've seen.  It's depressing, so many poets, so many centuries, and so little to show for it.  Certainly nothing at the Love Blender.
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