From: jack<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

umm do any here know about cabin fever and when it strikes?
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From: she devil<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Misti, fancy a shag? You caught me on two points, one, I am a brit, and two, am not a she. I can prove this to you.
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From: Riggs<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Chris<BR>
<BR>
Misti is extremely proud of her honesty and I think that this is indeed a fine thing. However perhaps you should not be outraged when someone else on this board chooses to be honest as well.<BR>
<BR>
oh and Argyle are you a fellow Aussie. Just wondering because the mention of a dummy spit was extremely familiar.
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From: Chris<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

she-devil,<BR>
<BR>
I won't dignify that. Pray I never meet you.<BR>
<BR>
Deevaa,<BR>
<BR>
Misti offending Blender regulars? Huh? If offense was taken, SOMEONE is way too sensitive for their own good. And when did she accuse Argyle of anything? Don't presume when it comes to the nameless idiots. I mean--and I know you have a good memory--you've said things in the past about anonymous posters that made it pretty clear you knew who they were. So...the glass house thing applies to you too. <BR>
<BR>
I know I'm in no position to defend Misti in an unbiased way...so to hell with it. I'm biased, sure, but she's a damn good writer, far and away one of the best on this site. That's just a fact. When I see people made uneasy by things she says, it just makes me think of the responses good art has always generated. Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" caused a riot at the Paris premiere. Lenny Bruce's career was essentially ruined by American prudishness. Am I saying Misti is another Sylvia Plath? Only time can render such a judgement. But I will say--and I can back it up--that she's an awesome talent. When I first started talking to her I was convinced she was a grad student. I had no idea she'd only had two years of college. Of course she steps on toes. Of course she pisses people off. But she's got a good heart and she's got integrity. She's just a target because she takes stands against arrogance and self-importance and seriousness and cowardice and clique-ishness. I call that courage. <BR>
<BR>
Michael...glad you're back! And just in time. We need ya, man!
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From: Chris<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Hey Riggs...<BR>
<BR>
Good point, but I hope you're not defending she-devil. They seem to me to be a truly despicable individual--kinda like if John Wayne Gacy had written poetry.
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

I am also good at what I do, I'm an artist in my own right. I've had my art taken out of a gallery 'for having too many nipples'.... so does that give me an equal standing to speak my own mind?<BR>

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From: jack <BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

darn had a whole lot of things to say about the bickering but.............Jackass jus came on MTV   later folks
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Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Dee, <BR>
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Don't be so elliptical. I mean, if Misti offended you, SAY what offended you. It's hard, I know. I'm a Libra, too. :)
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From: Chris<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

That last one was mine.
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From: jack <BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

lol human bowling lol
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

John Wayne Gacey *cough* SOMEONE is way too sensitive for their own good*cough*
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From: Argyle<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Riggs:  Yes, I'm an Aussie.  Melbourne ;)<BR>
<BR>
Chris:  Your wife certainly is talented, but in my humble, some would say illiterate opinion, she has a penchant for using her talent for "evil" as well as "good".  She's either the village idiot if she doesn't realise how much other people laugh at some of the non-literary stunts she's been pulling, today especially but not specifically, or she's one of these people who gets a kick out of public mutual masturbation.  As for who's been posting under false names, or no names at all, its pretty easy to jump to conclusions and then gather around the keyboard plotting verbal vengeance against the perceived miscreant.  For the experience she's had at doing this herself (we aren't stupid) you'd think she'd be better at scrying out the identity of said people herself, or lend a hand to help you out if it was you that jumped without looking.
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From: jack <BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

lol then they filmed a person naked taking a dump off a publc street   lol heh have to see the reactions to this lol
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From: jack<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

lol love jackass
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From: Riggs<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

AMEN
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

my points (spelt out because Chris asked):<BR>
<BR>
A. You and Misti fool around on the board and then tell people not to be over sensitive when they say it offends/annoys them.... then, when other people fool around on the board you get upset/annoyed and tell them not to be so childish.<BR>
<BR>
B. You say how strong Misti is, then constantly run to her aid and back her up instead of letting her deal with it herself.<BR>
<BR>
C. I am offended by Shallow Pools of Lukewarm Blah, however neither Argyle or I are 'She Devil' .... although, I personally found your response a touch amusing considering point A.<BR>
<BR>
I've been around the blender along time too, I don't mind putting my name to my comments even if I think it might step on toes... I say what I think, and I think you can sometimes by a tad hypocritical.<BR>
<BR>
I don't think I am arrogant, self-import and overly serious, a coward or  (too) clique-ish. I also think I have courage. I'm not sitting here angrily stabbing out words on my keyboard... I'm just making my point.<BR>
<BR>
Argyle and I are in different houses in different countries... we speak our own minds.<BR>
<BR>
I've known Misti a long time and don't attack her... I respect a lot of what she writes in the form of poetry. The suggestion about trying  xanga was an honest one.<BR>
<BR>
dee<BR>

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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

opps that was mean to be:<BR>
<BR>
C. I am offended by Shallow Pools of Lukewarm Blah, however neither Argyle or I are 'She Devil' .... although, I personally found your response (to she devil) a touch amusing considering  Shallow Pools of Lukewarm Blah  and point A.<BR>
<BR>
dee
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

*gasping in horror*<BR>
<BR>
I've just been told that my art work is to be PASSWORD protected on a web site....... I'm being censored! I can't believe it!<BR>
<BR>

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From: jack<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

lol only in america dee
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From: Michael (un-mused)<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Chris ~ I'm not quite back just yet. I find it humorous that people bother to complain about your and Misti's love comments to each other. It may not be more entertaining than say "preaching the Word of the righteous", but it sure seems to have gotten as big a response.<BR>
<BR>
Dee ~ as for Misti sticking up for herself -- trust a man to understand a male point of view. A man can't help but defend his woman.<BR>
<BR>
As far as the "Chris and Misti board" fiasco, I don't mind Misti's messages to Chris, but I can see how others might. I think everyone's just bored though as there hasn't been a shark or any jehovah's witnesses or anything in a little while. We've all got opinions and a need to share them.<BR>
<BR>
Misti ~ "Fragile happiness". I feel it. Very real. Sometimes I think all happiness is fragile. The two of the three things that have made me happiest in the past month have ended abruptly. One of them is my "fault". <BR>
<BR>
Terry ~ "Sunrise" I love it. Go there's nothing I want more than sunrise right now. And blue eyes. sigh. Keep up the cinquains. It's a very visible sign of your important impact on the blender.<BR>
<BR>
Gary/DarkAngel/StandswithaSmile ~ Good luck, best wishes, get better soon, etc man. Strokes are scary. <BR>

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From: willtobe1<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Ali-  It’s too kind of you to have found some good under rather pretentious gibberish spieled forth by my hand in the name of “Dream.”  But if there is good I’m glad it was seen so by you, and if by you then posted so, since this gives me somewhat the right to say that it was inspired in large part by you: your poetry in general and “Reflected” and “Why” in particular.  I can almost see your eyes in the way you write…
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From: E.G.<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

<BR>
 Micheal T.<BR>
<BR>
   Thanks for submitting "Dancing about Architecture". It<BR>
was enjoyable reading!<BR>
<BR>
E.G.
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From: B.K.<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Chris: John Wayne Gacey painted and his works are going for quite a price. <BR>
<BR>
Misti: I think you owe this community an apology. If this is all it takes for you to go postal. Honesty is one thing but plain ole mean spiritedness is another. She devil or not you started the ugly mess when all we suggested is you take a look at zanga.  
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From: Galadrial (seething)<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

<BR>
<BR>
Okay...<BR>
<BR>
         I tried for nice. NOW HEAR THIS!<BR>
<BR>
         A few of you were kind enough to respond to the fact that one of "Ours" is in an ICU---after a stroke? I really think that hissy fits, pity partys, and basic squabbling should have come to a grinding halt when this news came.<BR>
<BR>
         A little under a year ago, this community gathered round me when I was facing a surgery---not because I was so wonderful---but because you all were. There was a genuine feeling of companionship, and comraderie. Now? I am appalled.<BR>
<BR>
         Gary---we're pulling for you...honest. You're in a scary place right now---but better days do come.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
         And as for Blender Wars---enjoy yourself kids. Gala needs a vacation. This used to be where I came for refuge...and lately, it's just a little too much like my life.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
                                    Exit, stage left.
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From: Misti (the Village Idiot)<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Michael~<BR>
Thanks for your understanding and humor and everything else. Chris and I both enjoyed your prolific posts and submissions last year and are glad you're still around even after all the negativity you had to endure from the Blender community. Thanks also for the compliment.<BR>
<BR>
...If I'm "mean-spirited" and "evil" and whatever else that's negative, it is only because I've put up with a lot of undue criticism and sniping here ever since I first started posting and submitting stuff. Looking back at old Boards, it seems that the "nameless" moron was always attacking me. I've said countless times in the past that I will submit poems to the Blender and leave it at that. Then I receive compliments on my poems and feel that I should thank people or I read poems that impress me and think I should comment on them. But I am through with sharing details of my life and leaving messages for Chris. It's not worth all the negativity. <BR>
<BR>
...I don't owe anyone an apology or anything else. If people are going to view me as a bitch/idiot so be it. I'm through.
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From: kevin urenda<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

I don't wish to address myself to the aforementioned Blender Wars.<BR>
<BR>
I hate to see anyone I esteem greatly take a break from such a wonderful community (and I still feel that it is, or can still be), but I too have felt the need to withdraw for a bit.<BR>
<BR>
I do send my best wishes and prayers for a speedy recovery to Gary/Dark/Stands.  I lost my grandfather to stroke - they are very scary.  <BR>
<BR>
I'm out.<BR>
<BR>
k
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From: Harem<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

To Misti and To Chris,<BR>
I think the brightest thing on the love blender are both of you.... I never give false flattery, and I never say anything that I don't really feel.  So in all honesty, I think its great that there are a couple on the love blender, that are willing to share so much with the rest of us..... Sooo refreshing.... with so many poems, stories and prose about break-ups, love lost, and people being so lonely, you guys are a breath of fresh air in a polluted stagnant world.... Please don't stop being who you are and sharing what you have been.... I look forward to reading and seeing how real and honest your love is..... that even a couple has ups and downs, like the rest of us singles out here..... and to know that there is hope for a real honest relationship in this age of disappointments and gloom.... At the expense of sounding crash..... " Don't let a few jealous people destroy what you share on the blender......a good example of what I am trying to say -  I had been using poetry in some personal ads that I had submitted, and found that it attracted other individuals like myself who had deep feelings, and appreciation for friendship and genuine caring. Before I started putting prose in my ads, I was just getting replies from men looking only for a quick roll in the hay., and guys sending me pictures of their private parts. The poetry and prose was getting marvelous results. However, recently I got several notes from several gentleman who told me that I had a big mouth, that my poetry was stupid, that I needed to shut up, and that if I had as much feelings as I have mouth.... that I might be a good lay in bed...... Rather than getting mad.... I replied to each similarly but different.... I apologized to all four men, explaining that I did not intend to offend anyone, and was sorry if I had.  I also reminded them of the fact that they did not have to read it. I also told them  that I had no intention to stop using poetry in my ads, as this was a way for me to weed out potential one night stands from the more intellectual, who were looking for mental stimulation, romance, and all the trimmings, that I too was desiring....  I emphasized that although not everyone enjoys or appreciates dancing, does not mean that the dancer should stop dancing, nor should the bowler quit, because someone thinks he stinks at bowling, etc.... You get my point.  One gentleman wrote back and apologized for having been so rude and nasty to me, and told me that he had a fight with his wife that day, and saw how happy my poetry was, and decided to take it out on me.... Then he proceeded to ask me, if I would like to have an affair with him.....  giggle..... Ok... you get my drift.....  Sorry for this book I have written, but I needed to get my point across.... and like Ali and Yourself (Misti) who recently told me to never apologize on here for anything I wrote. here.... so now you do the same....  So in short.... Misti and Chris.... You guys are the cream in the coffee.....<BR>
The sparkle in the eye of the loveblender....  And I really mean it.... Please Please.... keep being who you are.... and sharing with us...... I like it  ! ! ! ! !  And I don't think that I am alone....<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
........
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From: Harem<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

To Gary, StandsWithaSmile, Dark Angel, etc.,<BR>
<BR>
I have managed to gather a few poems today, with the idea of cheering you on, and sharing a few comforting thoughts.<BR>
I have already submitted them here.  One in particular, I wrote just for you today, with you in mind, and what you are going through. It's entitled "stroke". I think it reflects the entire blender feelings.  You are a very unique individual, whom has shared intense feelings on the blender.  Thank you for being you.......<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
++++++
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From: terry<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Gardenguru~ Humor, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If Dee is not offended then I will say 'no harm no foul'. I bear no animosity toward anyone. i have enjoyed your posts immensely, and hope to continue to do so...<BR>
<BR>
Right now i am more concerned about the heart of our dear Blender itself. This was my first writing home. I despair to see it fall to this state. Its all about poetry and heart and love. Something we all know a bit about.<BR>
<BR>
terry(grieving)
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From: terry<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Gary~ You are in my thoughts and prayers. Michael is so right....Strokes are mega scary. Hang in there and fight...hard!<BR>
<BR>
terry
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From: terry<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Ali~ You are an inspiration to me at a time like this. You focused right on the truth of the matter. Thank you.<BR>
<BR>
Michael~ As always you are gracious and a good friend. Plus you chose a selection from one of my favorites ..."Dancing about Architecture" was great!<BR>
<BR>
terry
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From: Chris<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Harem, Michael, others--<BR>
<BR>
Thanks for your support. Misti and I really appreciate it. I really don't know why deevaa is so mystified about my defending my wife. If she's attacked, I'm attacked. It's that loyalty thing... But yes, Misti can defend herself adequately; she doesn't need me to speak for her. All I'll say in closing is that she's been as vital a part of this site as anyone attacking her--and more than most. So I just hope she doesn't let attacks silence her. The Blender would be a much poorer place. Thanks again, Harem...:)
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From: Gman<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Harem~~~~What can I say? I'm totally at a loss....I just read Journey,I Care,Tears we cried,and Cannot, I'm done reading for the day...nothing today could top them. I want to grow up and write just like you.
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From: Ali<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Madison~ I really enjoyed 'To Have and To Hold'...your writing is very beautiful...=)<BR>
<BR>
Micheal~ Great quote! I love that movie! And that whole scene is one of my fav's...thanks for posting that...it made me smile!<BR>
<BR>
Harem~ I am in awe of your writing...I don't know what to say except you're wonderfull!!! <BR>
<BR>
Love and dreams, Ali<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>

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From: Ali<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Gary~ My thoughts are with you, my dear...Be well soon.<BR>
<BR>
Love and happy thoughts, Ali<BR>
<BR>

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From: Ali(once again)<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

willtobe1~ *blushing, deeply* I don't really know what to say...I am deeply honored that I would inspire you...I am truly touched by your words...Thank you...And, I wonder, will you keep writing here?<BR>
<BR>
Gala~ I pray that you won't be gone for too long...your writing is always a bright spot in my day...While you are absent from here, I will miss your wonderfull talent...don't stay gone too long!!!<BR>
<BR>
Love and wishes, Ali<BR>
<BR>

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From: deevaa ([email-masked])<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Chris (and Misti)<BR>
I was not defending the nameless attacks on Misti, I was however pointing out that it didn't seem right, that you'd stand up  to attack someone else (she devil) for taking a stab at Misti when that person had just mirrored Misti when she'd taken stabs at blender regulars.<BR>
<BR>
Gala and Terry are right however ... who cares about the squabbling, lets agree to see things differently and move on.<BR>
<BR>
This place is about poetry, and romance lets respect that, and each other.<BR>
<BR>
dee
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From: Madison<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Thank you very much, Ali.  I seldom write about it; not in such an obvious way (he died mar 25) - after picking up a 7th century book on women poets of Japan last night; something about the way they get straight to the heart of matters inspired me to try.    Also thank you to terry (I went to your page today, I cried) and to Galadrial and Toklas.
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

... and in regards to the email I got yesterday, by the person I'll not name, and not respond to via email:<BR>
<BR>
I don't care if you think I AM 'She Devil' and I don't care what proof you think you have, because frankly I thought the poem was rather clever in a twisted way. <BR>
<BR>
take care of your hearts.<BR>
<BR>
dee<BR>

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From: the guppy<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

gary---so sorry to hear about your stroke...for what its worth, best wishes are coming from this little fish<BR>
<BR>
gup
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From: Chris<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

I agree...this is all a big waste of time. There are many more important things going on. But Dee...come on...clever in a twisted way??? You lost me there. Misti can be caustic, but, let's get real, she stands by what she writes--and this includes alter-ego creations. I don't understand why you always feel the need to defend the anonymous idiots. Oh well. On to more important things. <BR>
<BR>
Terry, you're a fine peacemaker, man...I can only echo your sentiments. As for Gala and Kevin, well, let's just say that self-righteousness is not a pretty thing. It seems they're doing the equivalent of taking their toys and going elsewhere to play. Which I guess is okay. The Blender, after all, belongs to those who contribute. And no one with a voice worth hearing should feel they can't...
<HR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

if Misti can be caustic then so can I. Don't change the rules to suit who they are applied to.
<HR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

for crying out loud give it up.  how many people are stifling their comments right now for the sake of a little sanity here.   they’ve come home from a hard day at work, sit back to The Blender for a little entertainment and reading, and tune in to more insults, bragging, and whining over “the world & misti as it is according to chris.”   you've labeled people as self-righteous (that’s just a little presumptuous) then you turn around (oh dear, self-righteously?) and announce “i guess it’s okay.”  of course it's okay! but we’ll all snooze better knowing two adults have been sanctified by chris to carry on in a way that fits them best.  it's rubbed me for one the wrong way, and i suppose that's coming through about now.  i’ve thought keeping quiet on this whole thing would contribute to making it go away....i can understand why anyone would want to take a vacation from it.   sorry kirk for all this nonsense.  and no, i’m not in anyway trying to defame misti, her writing is great!!!  it is you who keeps tossing her name out there.  i've heard your take and i really don't buy the jealousy angle, can you please just relax, dude?  i’m sure you’re both wonderful people and i'm way glad you've found eachother, but the horns have been blown enough already and they're beginning to hurt my ears.  
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Date: 19 March 2001<P>

That we are jealous of Misti...PLEASE..That we are sick of being Hannabalized by Misit for the sake of her precious ego is more likely. We merely asked her to stop telling us every time she and Chris farted thats all and the insults let to injury from the woman. That maybe the Jerry Springer show might have a place for her. They need all the wild rides they can get.
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Oh my god, Chris... are you going out of your WAY to be a hypocrite?<BR>
<BR>
Misti says she is through with the blender and you say thats a shame that the blender would loose a great voice. Kevin and Gala say the same thing and you call them self righteous and say that they are throwing their toys from the cot?<BR>
<BR>
Both Kevin and Gala have been blender regulars for at least as long as Misti.<BR>
<BR>
I defend SOME OF the 'no name' posts because for every 'no name' post there is a blender regular who wants to be able to speak their mind without being finger pointed by you. For nearly every 'no name' post (like the two above) there are valuable grains of truth in what they say.<BR>
<BR>
I can't believe your attitude.<BR>
<BR>
dee
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From: deevaa (again)<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

or should I say three.
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Date: 19 March 2001<P>

yeah, what Deevaa said.
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Date: 19 March 2001<P>

I think what Argyle said yesterday was right, either Chris or Misti is in fact some of the anonymous posts, and probably is the she devil. It seems to me, they are only out for attention and it doesn't seem to matter to them how they get it.
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From: Kirk<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

You know, sometimes when I don't read here for a few days, I like to pretend I'm a smiling Buddha, just silently 'lurking' and serenely letting it all roll over me.  (It's occured to me that I'm either the most or the least enlightened person I know, and I'm not sure which.)<BR>
<BR>
But then again, I'm on a diet, for crying out loud, trying to look *less* like the Buddha (my parents first nickname for me was 'the Buddha'... some friends of theirs thought that might really be my name-- they may be protestant ministers, but they've been known to do odder things.)<BR>
<BR>
So time for Buddha Kirk to weigh in on a some things.<BR>
<BR>
First and foremost, Gary/DA/Stands-- my thoughts and heartfelt agnostic prayers are with you.  We can't wait for you to return to the forum and actually read the madness here for yourself.<BR>
<BR>
Misti... I dunno.  The playful e-mail was a little out of place.  Not as out of place as the followups picking on it, but a little. I think the blender board isn't always the best place for that kind of performance art. <BR>
<BR>
Jack... jackass is the funniest show I've seen this week.  (Ok, not that I watch many shows, but still, it's great.) Few shows do such a good job of living up to the term 'outrageous', but it pushes boundaries I didn't even know were there.  Still, again, this might not be the best place for discussion of it, though it seemed like you were indirectly making a point about the content of the board, so you know.  Serene serene.<BR>
<BR>
Deevaa: "I've had my art taken out of a gallery 'for having too many nipples'...." is the funniest thing I've read on this board for a while, I think it might end up on kisrael.com as a Quote of the Moment...
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Kirk, the sad thing is its true.... it is exactly what the woman said to me....<BR>
<BR>
"Oh I REALLY like your style, but this can't go up here, far too many nipples."<BR>
<BR>
oh in case you wonder.... 2.... two is to many nipples.<BR>
<BR>
I won a gallery of my art at achase.com last month, I was asked to pick 15 of my best works, and they tell me of the 15 I picked, they tell me 5 need to be placed in a pass-word protected section. Apparently I'm an controversial artist now.<BR>
<BR>
dee
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Date: 19 March 2001<P>

is this what you are calling the playful email Kirk?<BR>
<BR>
http://www.loveblender.com/heart/new/shallowpools.html
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From: Misti<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Kirk~<BR>
What playful e-mail??? I haven't sent any e-mail to anyone recently. Regardless...I don't see how any e-mail that I send to anyone can be classified as performance art.<BR>
<BR>
For the Record and Then I'm Really and Truly Through:<BR>
<BR>
1. Chris and I are not "she devil"...we've had fun with alter egos but why in the hell would we write poems that rip me to shreds? Doesn't make much sense, even to a village idiot.<BR>
2. In all fairness, Chris and I have been disgusted and dismayed by quite a few Blender regulars in the past year. We should have left this place a long time ago. It was an addiction like anything else. The path of least resistance. Etc.<BR>
3. I stopped appreciating the "community" aspect of the Blender a long time ago. That sets me up as a target. I shouldn't expect respect from people I don't respect.<BR>
4. Yes. Absolutely. I have blown my own horn and wallowed in ego. I can't justify or defend that so I won't.<BR>
5. "Jerry Springer"...hmmmm. I don't think many people would tune in for what we have here. It's the Internet. No sex or kinfolks are involved.<BR>
<BR>
Bye!
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Date: 19 March 2001<P>

3. I stopped appreciating the "community" aspect of the Blender a long time ago. That sets me up as a target. I shouldn't expect respect from people I don't respect.<BR>
<BR>
ahhhh she finally understands!
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From: Argyle<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

I think he may have been referring to the two posts above that were the first two for 18th March, and chose not to directly acknowledge most of the other chicanery going on around here...<BR>
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Hard choice if you ask me... Come down heavy-handed and alienate some people (core blenderererers and lackeys alike), or gently step around it with the "Buddha is watching you" spiel and see where the cards fall.<BR>
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People know there are issues now - if they choose to work on them that's up to them.  If they wake up tomorrow and treat it as a bad dream, then this is bound to happen again.<BR>
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I think he made the right choice this time.  Time will tell...
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From: Argyle<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Sigh... the marvels of simultaneous postings...<BR>
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"People know there are issues now - if they choose to work on them that's up to them. If they wake up tomorrow and treat it as a bad dream, then this is bound to happen again."<BR>
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Perhaps that should read something along the lines of "There's not one person here who wouldn't welcome you with open arms, if the claptrap was left at the back doorstep".  Looking above, I don't think "claptrap" needs further definition.
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From: Chris<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Actually, you're right, Dee. I disgree with Misti on her decision to leave the Blender Board. She has as much a right to be here as anyone else. She's been contributing since 1997. That's a hell of a long time in Internet years. <BR>
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But that's her decision, and yeah, one of our anonymous friends was right--I really should stop speaking for her. So I will. And I'm sorry, but Kevin and Gala's dramatic little announcements just reeked of self-righteous indignation. Just my take on that...<BR>
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One last thing. I STILL can't figure out what these anonymous posters are afraid of. They might indeed be making good points, but, for not telling us who they are, they're cowards nonetheless--and they ramble on longer than the DubalPoet, for Christ's sake...:)<BR>
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Let's get back to the stuff we're all here for.
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

*whispers to Argyle* <BR>
Do you think that there needs to be an "Aussie slang de-coder ring" left with that last comment? Clap-trap could sound nasty.<BR>
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..... and I believe the Blender regulars call themselves "blenderites".<BR>
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From: Argyle<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Pffft!<BR>
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Blenderites, Blenderers, Blenderererers...  Me confused.
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From: Argyle<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Curse this dislexia... <BR>
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I read it as "2. In all fairness, Chris and I have disgusted and dismayed quite a few Blender regulars in the past year. We should have left this place a long time ago. It was an addiction like anything else. The path of least resistance. Etc.".<BR>
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Silly me...!
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From: Chris<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Argyle,<BR>
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You're talking like someone who's been around here a while. I mean, does being with Dee make you an honorary longtime Blenderite or something? I'm just confused. Are you the cop in the "Deevaa and Her Man" picture at myfamily.com? Just wondering, man.
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From: deevaa<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

nope chris, thats my other man. *grin*
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From: Argyle<BR>
Date: 19 March 2001<P>

Chris:  Nope. dee's got many friends who I'd like to meet one day, and the cop you mentioned is in fact one of them. Any others in there that you can point out for me?  I haven't had time yet to scope out that page.  <BR>
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As for me being around for a while, I started reading when something of mine got submitted in Feb.  I found for the most this site a pretty cool place to spend some of my time every day.<BR>
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As for me speaking like I've been around for a while, if you read between the lines of my most recent post, there was a message somewhere in there about humility, or lack of it.  You don't need to be around for a long time to be able to say something about that.  In fact, I say very little that is just for the hell of it, or to pointlessly knife someone...<BR>
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Cheers.
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