From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Brava, BK, Brava!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1389">Poo Poo Kitty Farts</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Here is a site my niece created, as a part of this ongoing Blender of Love debate:<BR>
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<a href="http://www.uoflife.com/wc/studentpapers/mgporn.htm">http://www.uoflife.com/wc/studentpapers/mgporn.htm</a><BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

I'll see your site and raise you another six!<BR>
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: )<BR>
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<a href="http://VictimsofPornography.org">http://VictimsofPornography.org</a> <BR>
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<a href="http://www.antichildporn.org/">http://www.antichildporn.org/</a> <BR>
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<a href="http://www.ChildPornography.org">http://www.ChildPornography.org</a> <BR>
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<a href="http://www.enough.org">http://www.enough.org</a> <BR>
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<a href="http://www.standtrue.com/pornfreeyouth/home.html">http://www.standtrue.com/pornfreeyouth/home.html</a> <BR>
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<a href="http://www.thecpac.com/stop-it.html">http://www.thecpac.com/stop-it.html</a> <BR>
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<a href="http://www.epic.org">http://www.epic.org</a> <BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=48">Laurel Ahlfeld</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

...woah...that is all.<BR>
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~*~Aparajita~*~ Thanks so much...the comments fule her fire. :) It's just a shame that she won't let me sleep at night. A fickle one, she is! 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=48">Laurel Ahlfeld</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

~*~B.K.~*~ So we are! I've enjoyed your inky reads!! I've got another one stored up, but it's not quite right yet...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=487">bp</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

~aparajita~ yup you're on top of your game, i enjoy your stuff, and truly wished i wasn't so retardly (sp) slow waiting for the right time to shake me and wake me into writing again, for only then am i truely at ease........<BR>
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bp
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">CryingShame58</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Injun Joe,<BR>
I have learned more about porn in the last couple of days from you than ever in my 45 years...For myself, I have never had an interest in porn...Before reading some of the articles I thought that porn was used by teenage to twenties males or those with sex addictions...Not sure how porn, or any "drug" of choice can be taken out of a free society...<BR>
CS58
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1296">julie gianni</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

EXACTLY. The issue here is really the nature of the addictive personality. Too often the former porn addict simply becomes addicted to NOT being addicted to porn... To the rest of us here in the real world the issue - that is, porn concerning consenting ADULTS - frankly isn't all that earth-shattering.<BR>
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OH - und Markierung - Sie WISSEN, daß wir mehr als das hatten...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">cryingshame58</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Julie,<BR>
Also when someone has an addictive personality and receives no help...one addiction just leads to another...so if you take away the porn from a porn addict....he/she just transfers the addiction to another one...<BR>
CS58<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

"Julie" - Thats who YOU are.  "Isn't all that earth shattering?"  How wrong you are...you are blind to the disease that porn (and alcoholism) is.  Thats called DENIAL.  Whatever...I was done with you long, long ago. I know who I'm talking to here - you are a textbook case of addictive personality..."Julie."<BR>
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When you effectively attack the root cause of addiction, it does NOT transfer to other forms of addiction. Thats BS...  Successfully handling one addiction gives a person the strength of character and resolve to handle all addictions, but it seldom can be done alone or simply inside one's own mind or intellect - I'm talking serious therapy, not just deciding on your own.<BR>
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Hey Juie/Laura/Jen/whomever - why not just write what you mean instead of using a faulty "language translator" to play games?  Addicted to NOT being in to porn?  That is ridiculous.  Don't try to minimize or subjugate my beliefs - it is all about character.  Check it out sometime...<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=48">Laurel Ahlfeld</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

There are times when the board gets stranger than my dreams...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Cryingshame58 -<BR>
Excellent points, but don't be decieved by interacting with "Julie" - she is only here to play games and seldom comments here except to try to play the same games she did when we used to be together back in Hooterville...<BR>
My mistake for trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear...she is a predator and one of the few people here ludicrous enough to DEFEND porn...<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1139">jwb71913</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

YAY!  My T-shirts arrived today!  Silly gurl I sure like the stuff you put up today.  Thanks, it reminds me that there's hope for all of us in out flight from unhealthy relationships...... Jim
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1296">julie gianni</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

ROFLMAO!!!<BR>
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Now THIS is my remark filtered through a "faulty language translator":<BR>
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"OH - and Mark - it KNOWLEDGE that we had more than that..."<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

<a href="http://www.nola.com/karaokecam/">http://www.nola.com/karaokecam/</a><BR>
gimme some of dat!!!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=902">spaded</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Cryingshame- <BR>
<BR>
I really did not mean to offend you. It is just that there is acceptance, and than there is true acceptance. I understand the point in not having drug addicts, drunks, thieves, etc., in a high posistion with-in the church. I can understand how it is possible to accept people with these problems and still not allow them a place of leadership. However when you say "we accept gays, but they can not lead in our church", that is akin to saying "we accept (insert skin color or ethnicity here), but they can not lead in our church". <BR>
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A person does not choose to be gay, any more than a person chooses there skin color or ethnicity. Scientific research has proven this, and they believe they may have isolated the gene that causes homosexuality. So if a person leads an exemplary life, but pursues relationships with people of the same sex, how does this make them less fit to hold a high posistion with-in the church. Having same sex relationships does not impair your judgement, or put other people in the way of harm. How can you claim true acceptance of homosexuality, if you liken it to addictions, and thievery, and whatever else it is you feel makes one morally corrupt?  <BR>
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This is why I think it is a good thing that the structure of the episcopolian church is changing. They are saying we accept you. We understand this is not a choice you made, this is who you are. If God allowed for a gene that causes homosexuality, than being gay must not really be that big of a deal for God, why should we make it a big deal. Who are we to say God is wrong?<BR>
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Again I state, the world would be a boring place if everyone did not hold their own opinions and this is mine.<BR>
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Holly
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Holly Holly Holly,<BR>
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So a group of scientists declare there is a homo gene and that justifies it all?  No way - it says nothing about the countless numbers of human who have this alleged "homo gene" and ARE NOT homosexual.  Homosexuality is BEHAVIOR, which blows holes all over your comparison to which race one is born into.  I frankly know very few gays who accept the gay gene thing...  it has been widely overblown by the gay political lobby as a way of justifying and normalizing such abberent behavior.  We humans have only barely begun to understand the human genome and the "homo gene" theory (THEORY!) is widely dismissed as a justification for the gay lifestyle by the larger scientific community... except for the faction that is hell-bent on justifying and normalizing such BEHAVIOR.  That is as ridiculous as saying I'm a Scottish drunk because I have the Scot gene.   Give me a break!<BR>
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There are scores (nay, thousands) of people who have the "gay gene" that are absolutely NOT homosexual, which completely negates this notion that you are gay at birth.  The universe created us as male and female; the flawed human society created homosexuality due to centuries of flawed (human created) psychological theory and gender confusion borne out of a lack of morality.  Homosexuality is akin to gender retardation and a form of mental illness.<BR>
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But you go ahead and believe what YOU want to!<BR>
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"Gay gene"... give me a freakin' break!  Just another way to NOT TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ONES LIFE...now you can just blame genetics.  I've got some swamp land that I'd like to sell you as a paradise...<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=902">spaded</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Injun Joe-<BR>
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Maybe it is all those with the gay gene who are not gay who are living there life as a lie, to each his own. Or maybe it is just a load of bull. Either way it makes no difference to me, someones gender preference does not upset me. <BR>
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I do however have a hard time believing that someone would "choose" to be gay. Even the people who claim to "accept" homosexuals have an odd way of showing it. Earlier on in this discussion did cryingshame (who accepts homosexuals) compare being gay to being a thief or a whore? Something along those lines. Which is her opinion and she is entitled to it.<BR>
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By and large people who are not gay, do not accept those who are. Why would anyone choose to live there life in a constant uphill battle. I think it is bull that a person chooses to be gay. The ONLY choice a gay person has is to live life as a truth or a lie. This is what accounts for happily married couples being split apart 20 years and 2 children later, when one of them "realizes" they are gay.<BR>
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Do you buy that, they knew all along, society just forces them to "play by the rules". It is easier to conform, than to live your life true to yourself if your true self is gay.<BR>
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 But if it is easier for you to believe that someone just one day decides it would be fun to face the hardships of being gay, so now they are going to be gay....more power to you.<BR>
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Holly
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Interesting thoughts.  I actually agree with you on the choice topic... I cannot imagine why someone would choose to be gay, but they do.  It always upsets me to hear people declare they are one thing or another "just because" or by virtue of genetic code, etc.  I was raised to believe that the one distinguishing factor in my life was my power to choose.  I guess I have to admit that most (or a lot) of people don't have that power or don't realize they have that power... like a possibility.  I do think there are genetic/heredity factors that predispose a person towards one thing or another, but in my opinion that is a small small piece of the pie.  I largely believe in nurture as opposed to nature.  The "nature" may be a platform but the nurture part is everything (the basis for behavior).  We model behavior based upon our environment or upbringing, either in sync with it or in opposition to it (i.e. if you had a negative life experience)... blah blah blah<BR>
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Everything is run by the mind, and as the Buddhists declare... CHANGE YOUR MIND (it is easy as that)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Holly,<BR>
I wholeheartedly concur. <BR>
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Injun Joe/Mark McNabb/Poo Poo Kitty Fart...<BR>
you frighten me. <BR>
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Kirk,<BR>
I got my shirt today! Yay! It is indeed a beefy tee. Now all I need are some lean jeans and I'll be all set.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Misti - <BR>
You got a name or two wrong...but I too am equally frightened of you (now that I know you were a stripper... yikes!)<BR>
Joe (maybe one other, maybe not)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=902">spaded</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Injun Joe-<BR>
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How do you account for the 10% of every species (dogs, cats, etc.) that are gay?<BR>
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I also agree that everyone has a choice. Just because you prefer people of the same sex does not mean you have to choose to be with them.<BR>
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My point is that just because you choose to live straight does not mean you are not gay. It takes more than just being in a heterosexual relationship to make you heterosexual. If a man sleeps beside his wife every night and fantasizes about his hot male boss, or the cute male waiter at dinner, or the good looking male coach of his cities basketball team...etc, etc and always men...he is still gay. And living a straight life may make society accept him, but I would imagine it would breed self-hatred with-in his soul.<BR>
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Maybe also you are right that it's some sort of mental defect, or something pre-disposes them to being gay and the upbringing influences the final outcome. Either way it goes, the fact still remains that being gay does not impair your judgement or put other people in harms way. So why should it bother so many heterosexuals that some people are not "straight".<BR>
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I find it interesting that with the views you hold, you still refer to gay friends. If in fact your gay friends are ok with the way you feel...feeling the way you do, why would you choose to have gay friends?
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=902">spaded</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

mental defect should have read...."defect"...lol<BR>
Because defect would indicate a problem where as I would think it better difined as a difference....<BR>
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holly
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

OneNutJim,<BR>
Whatever. I can't keep track of all your weird ass personas. The one thing you all have in common is your love hate thing with the girl from West Virginia. Now you exist (I wouldn't say live because you seem in sad need of a life) in Texas and Dixie is missing a hero. Blah.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

p.s. the photos you provided a link to cracked me up and repulsed me at the same time...your monstrous ego is not to be believed!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

some things are best left non-debated...politics and religion...too many opinions...just takes up space and clutters the mind...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=902">spaded</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

<BR>
I find debate interesting myself, especially concerning politics and relegion...lol. Though I would say it is possible kirk might not appreciate this debate. I think it has been going on for quiet a few days, and definitely does not concern love in the romantic sense...<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=35">Star of David</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

When is everyone going to concentrate on the poetry? All this is a bit heavy for Christmas people! ;)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=35">Star of David</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

UtterlyRomantic,<BR>
<a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.12.04.17.21.23408">In The Space Between Moments</a> is beautiful.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

the blender is a place of peace (or at one time it was) yet often disrupted by the same people with the same opinions (just change the names to protect the 'not so innocent')...personally i deal with opinionated personalities on a daily basis and look forward to my escape to the blender to read of love, breathe in fresh thoughts of better things...other than the daily crap...could be why i do not visit as often and could hold true for others as well...just my thoughts...<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

UtterlyRomantic ~ i agree with star...awesome work...thank you
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Holly -<BR>
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'cause I don't HATE anyone...just because I don't support a certain lifestyle doesn't mean I can't have them is my life as friends or whatever (i.e. business assocs)... maybe I just have a load of weird atypical gay friends from all over, but they mostly accept my beliefs because they know I strive to be as tolerant towards them as possible
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

Misti -<BR>
<BR>
I am quite certain YOUR ego could rival mine ANY DAY  : )<BR>
<BR>
I am compelled to say<BR>
"thanks for the nice compliment, fat ass"<BR>
but I shall refrain...<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">CryingShame58</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

To everyone that has been reading all this stuff about a gay ordained bishop of the Episcopal Church....<BR>
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"The" point is that the Episcopal Church has been teaching and practicing the Christian beliefs that comes from the King James Version of the Holy bible...which teaches that "engaging in sex of any kind OUTSIDE of marriage is a sin"...<BR>
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Now "my" point is that as a member of the Episcopal Church it's just not possible to change my mind on this topic...Some Episcopalians like myself don't want to allow men or women that are openly INTENTIONALLY/PURPOSELY engaging in ANY SIN to be ORDAINED...<BR>
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That's my story and I am sticking to it...that's all I have to say about this subject...if possible...it's worn me down probably more than you...<BR>
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Injun Joe,<BR>
When I spoke of addiction...I think you missed me saying that one addiction leads to another WITHOUT HELP...Thanks for the warning, but I don't see any harm interacting with anyone on this board...<BR>
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WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS NOW, IS LOVE SWEET LOVE...SOMETHING WE ALL CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF...(I BELIEVE THIS SONG WAS SUNG BY DUSTY SPRINGFIELD...CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG!)<BR>
<BR>
CS58<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

<a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.12.04.22.18.13435">You Are Not Through</a> <BR>
Awesome... but, my "engorged cock?"  (Good Lord!)  Granted, I'm embarrassed when it shrinks up to the size of a Coke bottle, but REALLY...!  You are so bizarre...<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

please...resort to name calling...is this a love site or elementary playground...no one cares about coke bottles...good grief
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 4 December 2003<P>

kenzie ~ american soldier...lovely work...thank you for this...as we battle childish behaviors here...we should really focus on more important things...what about those who have their loved ones miles away...true love across miles (regardless of your/their choice of gender)...love and peace as cryingshame has stated...let us focus people...come on<BR>

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