From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=34">Just Some Girl</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

*Flicking a tear from her blue eye*<BR>
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Gosh, Sushi, that really kills me! After my gracious comment to you yesterday. Hmmm..... <BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=328">Rhetoric</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Ah, good morning Blender Lovers and Hopefuls!<BR>
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Glad to see we all rolled off the happy side of the bed.<BR>
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Sushi, thank you for your critical thought about my Artist's Statement - I honestly appreciated it.  Whether you enjoy my posts or not, at least you read them! However, I too, think it is very raw - but one of the "rules" in composing a statement like that is to let the thoughts flow and edit less and less of your emotions out of it. In most cases, less is more - but in this one, I felt that subtle innuendoes would do my statement no justice.  I mean, hell, my posts are far more revealing about myself than that!<BR>
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Just Some Girl,<BR>
I would never want you to press delete. That goes for us all. If it is worthy of spending time transferring to a machine - then it is worth a read by those who enjoy the subject!<BR>
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Have a good day all,<BR>
Rhet
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=795">muryan</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Jon~ <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2002.08.28.21.52.26825">without me</a> was wonderful. I don't know how many times I've pretended to be happy that I dumped someone when I wasn't. You hit a bullseye. 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=911">Inflatable Sushi</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

lordy lordy y'all never get anywheres being so thin skinned<BR>
why does critique get misread as "mean"<BR>
this isn't about personalities or hurting feelings<BR>
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it is just about words - i don't even know any of you, but i know your words<BR>
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it was as constructive a criticism as anything i have ever read here<BR>
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y'all must be so damaged from "romance" that you wear your feelings on your sleeve<BR>
no<BR>
on your hard drives<BR>
sorry this isn't a perfect world and sorry that not everyone enjoys every god damned thing on this site<BR>
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grow up (or else the world'll grow you up FOR you, and that children is the LOW, PAINFUL road)<BR>
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bye bye (honesty not wanted here)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=10">Galadrial</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

I see we have a bit of a tempest brewing...and if I may---since my first post---back in 98 I think, this site has always been low crit---people carry their love poetry here---not so they can learn to be Emily Dickinson, or Voltaire---<BR>
but so they can express something that has made them feel more completely themselves---in short, love.<BR>
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It is amazing to me how many folks who NEVER even thought of writing a poem, do so, when touched by love. And it isn't so much that they are affronted by crit---as they connect the poems with their feelings. To them, it's personal...and to crit a piece is like telling a new mom her baby really ISN'T pretty...<BR>
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There are sites where crit works---but it needs to be asked for. Some people want it---some do not. Even when people ASK for feedback---it's not always crit that they are after...and yes, that can be a goofy element..but that's amour...<BR>
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Just my 2 centavos.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=620">Varda</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Amen, Galadrial!<BR>
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*V*
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Inflated Sushi~~ Let me use some words here to set the tone. Normally I'd put you on ignore or use the delete. But you came here with a far different agenda than sharing romance related poetry, and it shows. Others should see this for what it is:<BR>
"lordy lordy" a'bispo IS.br ... whether you spell it "y'all" or ya'll, you've come here in disguise to hurt. Your first post was plain in that for a "romance" site. You want to feel superiority? To feel these are "children" poets and personalities here you can easily cause pain? So you find who you think is vulnerable from their words .. who you can easily hate and hurt? You first come out of hiding and go for the jugular with an Artist's personal statement. You misjudged the thickness of the skin on that one. So you attack, not critique another. Protective Jack sniffs folks like you out and sounds a warning bell. Sure, it is about words here. Some of them here were written from real and current feelings or experiences. BUT your first borrowed words posted on this site maybe should have been critiqued to expose your reasons here. Romance?:<BR>
"Mission: Stardust I am what I am and I'm on fire and I hate you cuz you hate me.  If you climbed inside my mind all you'd find is revolution.... Split-level sinners are yesterday's winners.  I'm not like you. You won't change me.... shock baby skin games surrender your soul.  Flesh following arrows to avenues nowhere."<BR>
CRITICISM: yeah, it was pretty evident you hated us from the beginning and just waiting to attack at first opportunity. I hoped I was wrong in that first assessment. "It is just about words" -- true. But all those who write here aren't exactly "damaged from 'romance'" or from how you cursed our site. "bye bye" -- good idea, don't let the criticism hit you in the a$p on the way out. Or better yet, why don't you share some poetry here about the love that hurt you? Shed that thick croc skin of yours and become a part of the community? ..... Rennie (apologies to the rest here -- exercise in writing a para semi "vent" :-) instead a literary criticism)<BR>
 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=911">Inflatable Sushi</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

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The purpose of a fish trap is to catch fish, and when the fish are caught, the trap is forgotten.<BR>
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The purpose of a rabbit snare is to catch rabbits.  When the rabbits are caught, the snare is forgotten.<BR>
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The purpose of words is to convey ideas.  When the ideas are grasped, the words are forgotten.<BR>
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Where can I find a person who has forgotten words?  That is the one I would like to talk to.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=911">Inflatable Sushi</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Chuang Tzu...by the way.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

in poetry, each word has weight ... Octavio Paz ..... Rennie
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=10">Galadrial</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Sushi...<BR>
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          Everyone has their own opinion---and their own mindset. I operate on the concept that only the fragile of belief feel the need to convert others.<BR>
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                                      SO says Gala
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">CryingShame58</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Rennie,<BR>
Today, as I read the board I applaud you.  <BR>
CryingShame
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

fish trap? I fish with lures<BR>
and for you, little jugulares<BR>
sushi is fish bait con rice<BR>
not something I care to nibble<BR>
enough of the verbal sparring -- go see if you can twist other than this monofilament that will remember you. Show us YOU are capable of tweaking some lines of romance poetry. Put up or shut up, who said that? ..... Rennie<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

CryingShame~~ awwww, I am no better than Sushi here, venting and giving opinions. Kirk has provided us with a fine forum and website none of us hate to soil. I am sorry Inflatable didn't get the poetry-fix Sushi needed here. But personal attacks on poets isn't something I stand-by and tolerate when I care about a community. I think many of us have become far less tolerant and even more desiring of community in this past year. In public, I am adamant about Free Speech and the ability for anyone, including Inflatable Sushi, to express what they feel, but also into something civil like life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But this is, IS, the private website of an individual who cared to make a poetry site and forum available, so free speech has its limits here. Maybe Sushi's, experience with "romance" resulted in hatred, CryingShame. Poets also write about that here. Addressing a hurt often gets it out in the open, discussed and behind us one way or another. Otherwise, www.google.com and use the keyword "poetry" then IS, if we still don't please you. The world is filled with poetry sites. Maybe you will find one you love, or stay and learn to love us ..... Rennie
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=436">Jon</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

A wise saying proves nothing, and opinions can be wrong.<BR>
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But then of course you knew that already...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=16">kevin urenda</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

If I may interrupt the discourse for a moment...<BR>
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I want to wish scqueen a very happy birthday.  So I will!<BR>
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SCQueen!<BR>
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now, back to our regularly-scheduled programming.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=10">Galadrial</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Whitney, you goddess!<BR>
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GIRL!<BR>
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oK...Where are the well muscled male BABES to carry the lady's coouch to the spot of honor?
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

scqueen~~ HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! ..... Rennie
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">CryingShame58</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

SCQueen,<BR>
May all your wishes and dreams come true!  Happy Birthday...<BR>
CryingShame
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1">Kirk, Blender-Keeper</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Sushi, some of your criticism was possibly helpful, but most of it was kind of spartanly/aggresively framed. "less is more" is kind of useful.  And for some "sorry" makes it meaner, not les mean. And your comment on "Forgiveness"?  Putting it in a dumb freeverse doesn't make it ok to say it shoulda been deleted.<BR>
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We prefer our cornflakes of criticism with a bit more of the milk of human kindness.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=4">TJ Holland</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Spaded and Jackrhyme ~ Thanks so much for the comments on "Broken Angel". It means much to me.<BR>
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-Teej
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=4">TJ Holland</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

Kirk ~ "We prefer our cornflakes of criticism with a bit more of the milk of human kindness."   HA! Excellent! Profound even!!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=436">Jon</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

soulwolf~Haha, thanks, I'm pretty sure you're much more of a romantic than I am.<BR>
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muryan~Thank you. The orginal "without me" I wrote was much longer, but I decided to just submit the closing lines. I was pretty much rambling like I always do in 99% of my stuff.<BR>
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Take care and all that sorta kinda stuff.<BR>
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-Jon
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 29 August 2002<P>

CryingShame~~ missed an earlier question on sailing. Trying to get things wrapped up here in the southeast and get moved to southern California. No absolute time table at this point ..... Rennie
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