From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=10">galadrial</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

My comment has nothing to do with"porn".<BR>
It strictly had to do with the fact that Bundy was a societal abboration---and anyone who believes a word he said a zero hour before his execution is IMHO s LOONEY TUNE.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">cryingshame58</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY....<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

If you're gonna get on a soapbox make sure it's sturdier than THAT or you're gonna fall flat on your ass. Everyone has their own experience with porn...mine has been positive...and homosexuality is not a kink and has nothing to do with pornography. Good gawd. Yeah, let's outlaw pornography! All pornography! Lump it all together- Playboy, Hustler and the hardcore S&M/weird fetish stuff. It all must go because it leads to homicide! Rape! Sex with animals and children! Demonology! Shit.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=74">Echolocation</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

Harem -- <BR>
<BR>
I'm sorry to hear of your unpleasant past experiences with porn -- apparently there are many women who've had similar experiences.  And that's seriously creepy about your old house!!  <BR>
<BR>
But I feel compelled to take issue with your statement "then they get into beasteality and then into homosexuality" which implies not only that homosexuality is bad, but that it's *so* bad it comes below bestiality on the scale!  That's a pretty harsh judgment about something that is, in the final analysis, no one's business other than the consenting adults involved.<BR>
<BR>
Whatever one's personal opinions about homosexuality, one still ought to admit that, if it's between two consenting human adults, it's (a) none of our business and (b) as good or as bad as those two consenting adults think it is.  To put being gay on a par with pedophilia or bestiality is simply disproportionate.<BR>
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(Kirk -- feel free to move to politics board if that's where this thread is headed LOL!!)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=74">Echolocation</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

Oh -- and I'm with Gala.  Bundy was a wacko and I wouldn't believe anything the guy said, any more than I would believe anything that Charles Manson said.  Just because they can come up with excuses for their sad and evil behavior doesn't make those excuses valid, or useful to the general population.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

I actually wrote an anti-pornography speech for a college course back in '97. Used the Ted Bundy bit in my argument. I was a sexually frustrated Christian who had just been to hell and back and seriously screwed over by a psychopathic playboy. I can look back now and smirk at my sad ignorant self. Sanity feels good and it is long overdue.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

Ted Bundy??? So what happened to love in this place??? Happy Valentines Day to you all. (Special hugs to my Darlink and Rens and the Captain!)<BR>
<BR>
Mom's home and if you have to have surgery for anything find a doctor that does laproscopic...it's incredible.<BR>
<BR>
My home computer is down and won't be up again till this coming weekend (when I can get someone to look at it...sigh<BR>
<BR>
Kirk; I found that this site is banned at the Nashville public library haha. I started to protest but did not have the time to stop and do so.<BR>
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bk<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

Thank you, ladyinwaiting. I think I'll have to wait awhile for my ring, after all. I wanted to look at rings with my fiance on Saturday but we had a bed delivered to our apartment and had friends over. I told my fiance to just surprise me. All I care about is that it's ruby, not diamond, and has a platinum band because I do not care for yellow gold.<BR>
<BR>
Lisa,<BR>
I'm sorry to hear about the snippy, stupid remarks at xanga. What a moronic bitch. I smirk at people who go on and on about "soul mate" this and "soul mate" that and the whole forever thing. It's basically a crock of shit. Some people cling to whatever security blanket they can find. Of course I love and adore my boyfriend and I really, really like the idea of growing old with him. But I am realistic. I am not the kind to get married and stay married with gritted teeth. If it stops working, it stops working. No sense in staying in a marriage because that's the thing to do. I have a cousin who got knocked up her senior year of high school. She had already had an abortion so her dad basically told her she was going to marry the guy whether she liked it or not. Lucky for her, because she is shallow and materialistic, she got knocked up by a guy with rich grandparents who own a cement plant. So...they were married for about three years and then got a divorce. Then they married each other again. They have a brand-new home they "designed" themselves and two kids. My cousin has put her husband through all kinds of hell with her psycho dramas but hey, they've got tons of money so la la la. <BR>
<BR>
Anyway. that's my rant for the day. And I'm actually very happy. 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=254">chris</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

Yeah, I entirely agree. What's worse - a bad first and only marriage, or a good second one following a divorce? Seems like a no-brainer to me. People do cling to bad relationships for all the wrong reasons. And it gets even worse when they invest all sorts of religious and spiritual connotations in the institution of marriage. Assuming for a moment that God actually existed, would He or She or It want their little creations to be miserable? Well, maybe so...guess it depends on which book of the Bible you read. At any rate, happy VD to all! ;)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">cryingshame58</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

Blenders???<BR>
life is about choices...dyanmics of all relationships are different...unfair to judge other's...better to focus on your own...i have found that no one can exactly understand what i have coped with unless they have had a similar relationship...my closest friends don't understand, but accept my decisions as I accept their choices...people live in different realities and some people's worlds collide...some adjustments can be made, but often times it can't....Today, I submitted something that oprah believes...it's the type of philosophy that i learned in massage school...do you agree??<BR>
CS58<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=29">~Harem~</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

`<BR>
Well other than the fact that I have ruffled a few<BR>
feathers - it certainly has cause more activity here<BR>
on the comments board.  And that's a positive thing.<BR>
<BR>
Sorry that I may have worded things in a way that made<BR>
me look like a Moral Maniac seeking to condemn <BR>
Homosexuality.  Hey, I am the last person in the world<BR>
to condemn others.  My motto has always been to live<BR>
and let live.  It just so happened that that was something<BR>
that I had to go through in my first marriage.  At one <BR>
time, I even joined my hubby in his porno lifestyle, <BR>
thinking that it would improve our marriage.  But it<BR>
didn't work out that way.  What little respect that he<BR>
ever had for me - went down the drain.... and he admitted<BR>
toward the end - that the day that I took the step to<BR>
join him in the porno fun - was the day that he stopped<BR>
loving me.   Instead of improving our sex life (which at<BR>
first it seemed to) - he began to take my approval -as<BR>
a sign to become more involved with it - and less with me.<BR>
The last two years of our marriage were very sexual for <BR>
him, and the only sex he offered me was to do it in front<BR>
of him with his friends - and anyone that he would bring <BR>
to the house.  I just couldn't deal with it.<BR>
<BR>
So for me it didn't work out, but I know that for some<BR>
others it does.<BR>
<BR>
I basically commented on the Injun Joe article about<BR>
Ted Bundy - because I had thought it was interesting.<BR>
Although he was sick mentally - I still thought that the<BR>
last confession that a person makes before their execution,<BR>
might have some truth to it - at least it was cool to<BR>
see what he thought about himself and his own problem.<BR>
<BR>
Since then, I have done some research on the internet,<BR>
and found substantial support for both sides of porno.<BR>
Some authorities claim that porno is the best thing that<BR>
ever happened to the human race - and even some countries<BR>
and states said that their sexual violence had decreased,<BR>
as a direct result of an increase in the circulation of<BR>
pornography.  They claimed that by having an outlet for<BR>
their sexual tensions (using porno and masturbation) that<BR>
the list of rapes, etc. had decreased.  So they views<BR>
pornography as a social good.<BR>
<BR>
On the other hand, I also found the very opposite on<BR>
other sites - So what is the truth?<BR>
<BR>
It's almost like anything else in life -  One person<BR>
tells you not to go to a movie because you will hate it.<BR>
Or don't eat at this place or that because the food is<BR>
awful - and you find it to be the very opposite.<BR>
<BR>
Even doctors will disagree with each other on the advice<BR>
or medical options that should be done for any particular<BR>
ailment.   It's crazy .<BR>
<BR>
I guess the bottom line is that we weigh and measure<BR>
others comments and opinions, but in the end, we have<BR>
to go with what works for us.<BR>
<BR>
Although several comments were made here of Ted Bundy<BR>
being insane and not to listen to his advice -  yet<BR>
compare this with what a famous psychologist has to say :<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
"As a clinical psychologist, I have treated, over many years...sex offenders...This includes many types of unwanted compulsive sexual acting out plus such things<BR>
as child molestation...and rape. With only several exceptions, pornography has been a major contributor <BR>
or facilitator in the acquisition of their deviation <BR>
or sexual addiction…"<BR>
-Dr. Victor B. Cline;<BR>
Psychologist at the University of Utah; <BR>
Family marital counseling and sexual addiction.<BR>
From his Booklet;<BR>
"Pornography's Effects on Adults and Children" <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
AND he has this to say about porno's affect<BR>
on marriage or a relationship :<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
"The second phase was an escalation-effect. <BR>
With the passage of time, the addicted person <BR>
required rougher, more explicit, more deviant, <BR>
and 'kinky' kinds of sexual material to get their<BR>
'highs' and 'sexual turn-ons.' Being married or <BR>
in a relationship with a willing sexual partner <BR>
did not solve their problem. Their addiction and <BR>
escalation were mainly due to the powerful sexual <BR>
imagery in their minds, implanted there by the <BR>
exposure to pornography. They often prefer this <BR>
sexual imagery, accompanied by masturbation, to sexual <BR>
intercourse itself. This nearly always diminished their <BR>
capacity to love and express affection. Their sex drive<BR>
is diverted to a degree away from their spouse-and the<BR>
 spouse easily senses this, and often feels very lonely <BR>
and rejected."<BR>
-Dr. Victor B. Cline;<BR>
Psychologist at the University of Utah; <BR>
Family marital counseling and sexual addiction.<BR>
From his Booklet;<BR>
"Pornography's Effects on Adults and Children"<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
SUMMARY<BR>
"In my clinical experience, however, the major <BR>
consequence of being addicted to pornography is the <BR>
disturbance of the fragile bonds of intimate family <BR>
and marital relationships. This is where the most <BR>
grievous pain, damage, and sorrow occur. There is <BR>
repeatedly an interference with or even destruction <BR>
of healthy love and sexual relationships with long-term <BR>
bonded partners."<BR>
-Dr. Victor B. Cline;<BR>
Psychologist at the University of Utah; <BR>
Family marital counseling and sexual addiction.<BR>
From his Booklet;<BR>
"Pornography's Effects on Adults and Children"<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
"If one asks if porn is responsible or causes any sex <BR>
crimes, the answer is unequivocally, "YES," but that is <BR>
only the tip of the iceberg." <BR>
-Dr. Victor B. Cline;<BR>
Psychologist at the University of Utah; <BR>
Family marital counseling and sexual addiction.<BR>
From his Booklet;<BR>
"Pornography's Effects on Adults and Children"<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Is he the only professional that feels this way?<BR>
Probably not.  <BR>
<BR>
"Investigators have reported that rapists <BR>
and child molesters use pornography both immediately<BR>
prior to their crimes and during the actual assault."<BR>
-Silber, M.H., and Pines, A.M. <BR>
"Pornography and Sexual Abuse of Women," <BR>
 Vol. 10, pp. 857-868, 1984.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
I'm sure that opinions vary and that not all who enjoy<BR>
porno - will wind up as rapists.... But I just thought<BR>
this information to be interesting and worth sharing,<BR>
since it even mentions the possible long term effects<BR>
on relationships, and even some marriages.<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1353">juan d'fule</a><BR>
Date: 14 February 2005<P>

There is some awesome poetry happening at present..good to see..and none of it is pornographic..better still..and there are no pornographic pictures on this site..which is awesome and one of the many reasons I frequent this site..because it is a clean site and filled with interesting like minded individuals who enjoy prose and poetry and not pornography, but some people just can't stop talking about it which leads me to think....
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