From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=109">Stephen</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

TJ~~ Brother named Stephen? I’m sure You know then that Stephen is the best name right? Stephen King . . . Stephen Hawking . . . Way better than those poser ‘Stevens’   God if it wasn’t for Spielberg I’d hate ‘em all.    But anyways, Yea, I like to complicate things and over analyze stuff. The simplistically raw poems get to me too of course, but deep thought and originality are the things that cause my main attraction to poetry. <BR>
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Rennie~~I dunno, I don’t think it is relative to the painting. To me, I don’t care who made it, or how gorgeous it is; I don’t think I’d hang it on the wall. Just because it is Michelangelo doesn’t mean it somehow masquerades the nudity. And hell, if it was too nicely done, it’ll resemble porn. When it really comes down to it, when the guys come over to watch the hockey game, it’d get sort of weird with a nude painting over the TV.<BR>
I just wanted to compliment Dee, cause she is a good painter and she gives this place more flavor. Sorry I try to throw in a laugh, my jokes always manage to tick people off. But teasing is too fun to resist.<BR>
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~Immature~<BR>
&gt;;-) <BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=744">jimmyallgrownup</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Stephen my man I am in full agreement with you. Back when I used to try to be straight - or at least appear that way in the eyes of the world - things really would have gotten strange if myself and a bunch of the guys tried to watch a hockey game with naked women on the wall. Well, things got strange anyway, but that's another story altogether . . . <BR>
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And Rennie you crack me UP! To answer your question: Yes.<BR>
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Btw Stephen, do you live anywhere near San Diego? Just curiousity killing the cat . . . ;)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=109">Stephen</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Naw, Santa Cruz my friend.. Santa Cruz ;-)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=744">jimmyallgrownup</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Hmm. Don't get me started on Santa Cruz! Shared an ice cream cone on the pier with a guy named Sebastian there once. Watched the sea gulls and the tourists. We'd come down from Point Reyes by way of Cisco and Sausalito. Those were the days. Now I'm throughly - probably permanently -ensconced in San Deigo. I guess I like it enough. San Fran became too haunted for me after AIDS really hit - knew too many former-friends lovers acquiantances suddenly being listed on somebody's list as a "casualty". I was convinced that if I stayed it would soon be me on those lists. I headed south. LA was too sleazy, too soulless in a genuinely satanic way - so here I am. No satan here, but Roger definitely is. He's resumed email correspondence with his guru . . . Did he consult me in this matter? No, he did not. Naturally Jean-Paul (that's his guru) feels that I am adding decidedly bad vibes to the situation. Personally I think that Jean-Paul has ulterior motives. I may be wrong. I have been before. But I somehow doubt it - as does Jean-Paul's former lover, who has begun emailing MOI. Anyway, this has gotten way too sordid for this venue . . . so farewell boys and girls. Keep readin' that poetry. Tomorrow will be better. Maybe. ;)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=109">Stephen</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Lol, good story...You sounded like the beginning of a movie there.. or the end.. Anyways on a serious note:<BR>
AIDs has no sexual preference nor location...inquiry is the best prevention.   Hate the cliche people believe that homosexuals are more prone to carry...<BR>
irretating ignorance<BR>
That's terrible you had to experience that in san fran. (or at all)<BR>
My only qualms there, are the sucky driving conditions...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=17">deevaa</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

"And hell, if it was too nicely done, it’ll resemble porn." --- so I guess nice = realistic?<BR>
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Hmmm.... telling.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=328">Rhetoric</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

elocution:<BR>
Thanks! Today, I hit Manhattan for the first time.  Yippee. You are quite in love...or is it lust? I hope you share your words with the ones who inspire them. <BR>
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frozencharlotte:<BR>
Wow. I think you must post here under another userid. Me thinks that I have commented before on your stuff.  In either frame, you are a wonderful weaver of the moment. Your newest is well constructed. Structure, meaning - all good.<BR>
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Just Some Girl:<BR>
Will you host my going away party when I decide never to leave this place? On another note...All the men of this family adore you! Come lawyer, come mortician, come artist - you are never far from the conversation. I miss you too.<BR>
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Bye Bye Blenderites. Rhetorically Speaking, I am off to play with the big kids.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=34">Just Some Girl</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Rhet:<BR>
<BR>
Is the green glow of my jealousy (and my freshly-painted dining room) reaching you all the way up north?? I hope you gave the lawyer a big hug and kiss for me...missing all those folks.<BR>
<BR>
 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=96">dragonfleyes</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

GAH!  Men of the renaissance lovers????? bah bah bah!!!  Have you forgotten the likes of Henry VIII????  I'm sure Anne Bolyn was thinking "oh gee, how he loves me"  when her head fell off.....
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">CryingShame58</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Reading humorous comments by many and this board is amusing!<BR>
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Rennie,<BR>
As you know I am fan of your work...thanks for your comment.<BR>
<BR>
CryingShame<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1002">A. Perkins</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Ecolation and Lydia, Thank you for your kind comments.  I have  read the blender for a long time, but was slightly intimidated by all of the great talent here.  I've never been good at stringing words together, but I thought I'd give it a try.  Thanks again, A. Perkins 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=205">Violet</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

<a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2002.11.07.09.32.19940">Make-believe</a>   is really powerful, Cyan.  I loved it, and I was also struck by your front page pick.  I'm sorry I missed that one the first time around! ~Vi 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=4">TJ Holland</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Stephen ~ Don't ever stop analyzing. Sure, it'll cause you problems in life at times, but people like us don't miss out on the fantastically important nuances of life that most people miss. I still haven't figured out how some people can just NOT THINK their WHOLE lives. That's gotta be boring, right?<BR>
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-Teej
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=96">dragonfleyes</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

hmmm, i partially agree with the analyzing thing.  I think there is such a thing as over-analyzing, and I'm sure many will agree with that.  Thinking, and analyzing can be two completely different things....perhaps observing, instead of analyzing....
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=109">Stephen</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

TJ~~I know exactly what you are talking about..., I think most of my girlfriends have consisted of those type of people.. ;P<BR>
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Deev~~*scratches head* uhmm yea, but your paintings still hover between reality of the body and deep thought; If that makes sense. They seem to represent both the way a person _generally_ looks, while emphasising on their state of mind at the time, creating a theme for the reason you painted it. I apologize for the porn thing. No, the best paintings of people don't resemble porn.. Thats not what I was trying to say. What I meant is that people who don't appreciate visual arts would see it as porn, and because I have friends as such, I wouldn't want to hang it up on the wall...Although it would get a lot of laughs...They would be about my wall with naked people on it.. so .. no ;-P See where I'm coming from now? 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=34">Just Some Girl</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

I think Jimmy's slip is showing!!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1003">snapperhead</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

I'm lost in a world of adult relationships. Although, I often feel that that love that my boyfriend and I share is a true love, there is a sense of security that is not there. He has told me that he wants to travel and see the world and where does that leave me? Knowing that he is planning to leave in the future, should I hang on  and enjoy it while it lasts?
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Dee~<BR>
nipples are essential. Don't ever cater your art to one person or to the masses. BIG NO NO!!!!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=5">jackryhme</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

ah but stephen, question now,  would it be the painting generating laughs or just the fact that of you hanging such? now this is not a put down but only a way your friends might perceive you and you your friends and have little to do with the subject of porn, for if you were to place the madonna raising from her clam shell and done to the perfection of beauty would it still be perceived as porn? and this also leads to the idea of when is naked flesh porn? at which extent does it become such... is it only nipples and hair to make the criteria or any flesh from neck down ? and lets fall to the area of porn, now is it only such of it that causes an erection or might it only lie into the area of too much beauty? for me a naked woman can be far more than an erection causing sight but one left to marvel at in all its glory ah but 'fraid thats just me i guess, though lol don't get me wrong, in the right place and time the same flesh will do wonders for my libido but i find i can also appreciate it for qualities far unlike porn<BR>
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jack
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=17">deevaa</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

ah, I'm sorry guys I was making fun of poor Stephen being such a prude. My Buddha has no nipples because that is how I painted him, it has little or nothing to do with Stephen what so ever.<BR>
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I was using a small stone 'Garden Buddha' for reference, and he didn't have nipples either.<BR>
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dee
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1">Kirk, Blender-Keeper</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Hmm.<BR>
I just submitted a work that I had to rejigger a few times to get right, and I noticed that it's really annoying how in ie that the password field gets reset each time...how would people feel if the password showed up as plaintext on that page? I guess if people are at home they aren't too worried about shoulder surfing. <BR>
<BR>
Should I leave it the way it is, where your password shows up as dots but gets forgetting if you hit the back button to go and fix something, or should I change it so it shows up as a normal input field?
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Kirk, definitely fix it so that it's a normal input field. I'm not sure what that means but it sounds good. <BR>
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Dee, I'm sorry. I know you don't cater to people. I'm just not used to seeing your paintings sans nipples. <BR>
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...When I first flew to New York I tried to make a "Dee" painting...a colorful, thoughtful nude. I botched it up horribly but I cut out the woman's torso and put it in the center of my newest pop art collage. It works that way. Anyway, you have inspired me with your art. Thank you.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=961">coujeaux</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

snapperhead&gt;<BR>
<BR>
I would say it largely depends on what your belief is in the future of the relationship.<BR>
<BR>
From my experience and observation, people stay together for a myriad of reasons when consideration of separation becomes an issue in a pairing, but most of them can be grouped under two categories:<BR>
<BR>
1) Either you stay together because you find enough reasons to hold it through...<BR>
<BR>
OR<BR>
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2) You can't find reason enough to blow it all up and start from scratch.<BR>
<BR>
If your beau wants to travel the world and see new places irregardless of your wishes, he pretty much has told you his expectations of the future of things between you two.  So, were I you, I would inventory my deepest desires and reconcile the reasons to stay with him for whatever time frame you have left, and also take stock of opportunities now and beyond his date of departure, if it comes to that.    Down where your personal truths and wishes reside lies the ultimate answer in your heart, and I would recommend heartily you follow what it tells you.   Only you have the ability to make you happiest.   I wish you luck and blessings no matter the outcome.<BR>
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Kirk&gt;   For the sake of continuity and simplicity, I would leave things as they are.   Obviouosly, you wrote your code to be as secure as possible when posters want to use their accounts to submit to the Blender, and if it is too much trouble to type a password multiple times should someone decide to edit, then it probably means a reconsideration is in order for people about to enter their commentary or works.<BR>
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My thoughts, for their worth.<BR>
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Blessings, all.<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=969">drew1977</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

~zero love,<BR>
<BR>
Your work is fantastic, i cant get enough...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=985">elocution</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Drew1977---"How Much" was beautiful--it was as if you wrote down what I have been thinking-but your words-fantastic!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=17">deevaa</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

S'ok Misti I'm just shocked I had to point it out to you that I was making fun.... but, ah, hell I shouldn't of been yanking at Stephen's chain, I couldn't resist it is so much fun watching him struggle to say something he doesn't quite understand why he is saying.<BR>
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I get the feeling he's grown up with a certain standard of morals and now that they are being questioned he's not 100% sure why he's always adhered to them.<BR>
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the Buddha was finished off before I even read his response this morning, he had no influence over what I painted.<BR>
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Take care,<BR>
<BR>
Davena.<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=969">drew1977</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

thanks elocution... <BR>
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thats one ive been holding back from submitting for quite a while .... sorry guys<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=961">coujeaux</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Davena&gt;<BR>
<BR>
Regardless of commentary, I think your work is astounding.  Change nothing for anyone but yourself, though I am sure you know this already.  :)<BR>
<BR>
Blessings.<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=109">Stephen</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

*rollseyes* Rofl. nice Dee.. nice. I'm sure you know I am just a guy giving his lame opinion on things, and I'm sure you realize your own independence, and don't particularly need to be reminded of it.(misti) (visual arts aren't my thing anyway) But I didn't tell you to change your painting did I? Lol? I just wanted to comment on it. Oh yea, And yes, I have extremely strong morals(about what I have morals on), but they are firmly realized, and I don't think my morals have anything to do with giving a opinion on a painting.<BR>
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But really.. before you all continue your pack hunting on a apparently "conservative" outlook.. I wasn't coming from one.. I'm with you all. But I have friends who do come from that perspective, and therefore I wouldn't hang up something like that... And I don't think my friends would give a shit either way, but I just don't wanna bother with it. Not only that, I don't particularly like that kind of art to begin with. I just don't think most of that art is very pretty...I like lots of color and usually stuff without humans in it.(dunno why so don't ask) This doesn't mean I can't appreciate ones with humans in it, or tease Deev about making pirates. ;-) Arrrrrr matey!<BR>
And trust me, if I really was passionate about that kind of art, I wouldn't let my friends regulate it.<BR>
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jackryhme~~ definitely they would be laughing about both. I would do the same with them as well. I'm a regular guy, sometimes I find stupid things funny. I'm still a poet...and I knowit... but I don't always.............showit...IRL especially.<BR>
But yea, I agree the distinction between what porn is, is ambiguous. Good point.<BR>
<BR>
ps     sorry i've been giving long comments lately. very odd indeed.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

My bad. I lack a sense of irony/perspective whenever I catch the slightest whiff of censorship/anti-nipples. Nipples are lovely. Bye.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=4">TJ Holland</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Ah. The bane of the written 'net conversation. Tone, inflection, expressions.......all lost. So much room for misunderstanding. Missing points. Misinterpretation. <BR>
<BR>
This type of communication is fairly new, and we've yet to master the skill of true understanding in this forum. (Emoticons just don't cut it.)<BR>
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I think Stephen's comments/opinions have been presented kindly and he's definately been patient. And Deevaa is a diva, therefore she acts as such. As well as a sensitive, easily inflamed artist. (THIS IS NOT AN INSULT!)  &lt;---- (case in point)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Yeah. These kind of misunderstandings don't happen in 3-D.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=109">Stephen</a><BR>
Date: 7 November 2002<P>

Thanks.. .. I prolly could of ended it earlier if I just shouted " NIPPLES ARE GOOD " tee hee<BR>
my bad too ;P 
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