From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=5">jackryhme</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

hmmm well as to a navy person....lol want an opinion from one who has been there and is soon going back? all i can say is i have been into about 40 or so countries and not hanging out with the better off people there, i have been in the worst parts as well as some of the best and from me i think and know america is the best thing going.  as for the rest well i have my opinions and probably most here would not really care for them cause i do know what i am talking about  and i  truly believe 'nuff said<BR>
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jack
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=4">tj holland</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

There is more power in one true action than in all the wilted words of the ignorant.<BR>
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Speak, children.<BR>
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-Teej
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=22">angieubaldo</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

I am in the US Air Force living in the United Kingdom, and all i have to say is I am probably not going to get to spend christmas with my family because of this war, and i am happy to do it, if that means preserving the freedom that my country believes in.  Even though some people do not agreee with military actions, and believe war is wrong, and look at me like i am a baby killer, i do not care, because at the end of the day, i know i am part of something that is making a differance, and protecting my family, and even, people who resent me.  If only people some people knew what could happen to America of the military wasn't there.  Never underestimate the power of ignorance.  <BR>
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Anyways, so anyone wanna talk about love??
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=5">jackryhme</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

lol amen to that  lol amen<BR>
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jack
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=744">jimmyallgrownup</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

Who started all this? And just when I thought the beach was safe again! Okay, one word, boys and girls: OIL. Now, Miss Holland makes a good point about how essential fossil fuels are to our very way of life, but why don't our military and political leaders simply come clean on this point? That's precisely why Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm were so disingenuous - well after the fact, after the ticker-tape had fallen from the sky and the generals were writing books, we found out that, yeah, of COURSE it was about oil! But what was used to drum up the populace to such a grotesque pitch? Why, Kuwait. The sovereignty of nations. Uh huh . . . And then there's the basic fact - highly relevent to this discussion - that our Mr. Leader of the Free World is an unadulterated idiot. Clinton at least had a solid understanding of geopolitics. At the risk of sounding partisan, let me say that our sabre-rattling Republicans deserve the world they so earnestly seek - and they're the ones who should have to fight the wars they so eagerly salivate over. But that's enough contentious talk for one day. Roger and I are going to make some popcorn now and watch E! True Hollywood Story's take on Liza Minnelli (Roger has it taped). I'll admit, her recent wedding made me cry like a little baby. But I'm funny like that. (Btw, are we alone in thinking this or is E! Hollywood Story only the most addictive thing OUT there?!) <BR>
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Out for now . . . don't go changin', k? ;)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

O.K. Guys first of all there is a three parter that PBS just did on ISLAM and how from the Crusades on those poor people have been used for butt wipes. I recommend them to you all. Frontline just did another piece on Al Quida and the areas of Pakistan that no one can go into near the mountains that border Afghanistan. (Would that be because Osama lives there ha) Give me a break, they will all shield Osama with their lives and smile and tell us different. He's their hero, He thinks he's Clint Eastwood/Robin Hood. Get that bad asses head on a plate and the rest will back down. It will deflate their gas balloon.  <BR>
 Our own government made Osama as powerful as he is supporting his operations. Just as we sold Sadam chemicals by the butt load. But we don't want his chemicals we want his OIL. HA Big Daddy Bush and the little bushes have to keep the oil corp greed together here (Get out the old tv show of JR and Dallas we're on again just add a war to it)<BR>
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So now here's a wierd thought. So we send you all off to war. What a perfect time to terrorize your country while you are gone. OH YEAH think about it. All those guns we've sold anyone that wants one and even my son got his hands on one of those terrorist cookbooks at the age of 14. The bad part is that he was smart enought to make anything in that book.<BR>
  If any of you saw the Robert Hanson story (hes the spy that sold us out to the Russians) He said the scary part of war will not be the techno parts but the terrorists actions in ways we have never imagined.<BR>
  We cannot patrol the world, there are many countries out there killing one another by the boat load and we are not interested because they don't have what we want OIL.<BR>
 Keep calling people evil and they will bash your head. Try saying "Can We Work This Out Somehow" without killing anyones babies. (But Angie we would never call you a baby killer only the politicians that sent you. You are a mere pawn in the game) <BR>
 We have a major problem with Osama. But why stir up all the Muslims against us. E-Gads whose idea was it to put the miss world pagent in a Muslim area of the world. <BR>
 Get an unbiased view of the news, listen to NPR, Watch PBS. I'm all for getting Osama but the rest of this war mongering for better stock market ticker tapes and oil needs to stop. I would take Bill Clinton PANTS DOWN any day over Georgie Porgie and his bush wackers.<BR>
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(I will stop now. HA)<BR>
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bk
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=890">Hcat</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

Hmm... I been away to long. Interesting conversation goin on, I won't get in it any except to say Amen, TJ. I'm a weepy Republican who hates politics, and adores her country and what our FREEDOM stands for, as well as those who fought to GIVE US that FREEDOM that so MANY of us take for granted. Peace and Freedom don't come without a price.<BR>
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OOPS! Didn't mean to say that. I had a question! Have any of you heard of Cowboy Poetry? If you have, do you know of any websites where some could be published? There's a few but they demand that all poems be submitted anonymously. I've got a friend who writes heart-wrenching Cowboy Poetry, and wants his name on each and every poem. If you know of any, I'd appreciate some help!<BR>
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H<BR>
(by the way, hi ya'll!)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1">Kirk, Blender-Keeper</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

Yeesh...I post one message saying "I've got nothing against a little offtopic talk" and this is what we get.<BR>
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The war talk is ok, but I'd prefer if people avoid the big rants and try to make their points concisely. And how the hell did we get into a biblical defence of transgendered jews?  <BR>
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The cut and paste astrology thing seemed a little pointless as well. In fact, avoid cutting and pasting large excerpts of anything here.<BR>
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I think a war in Iraq will make us less safe, not more safe.<BR>
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Not to unduly alarm anyone who's gonna fly this holiday season, but Salons pointing out our jets are vulnerable to smuggled shoulder launched missiles... <a href="http://salon.com/news/feature/2002/11/22/missiles/index.html">http://salon.com/news/feature/2002/11/22/missiles/index.html</a> ... I wouldn't be surprised if that's the location of another wave of attacks. (If you do have to fly, like I do, just keep in mind that the chance it hits *your* plane is pretty small.)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">cryingshame58</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

This is my opinion about the whole Iraq situation....<BR>
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I work in the Oil and Gas Industry...<BR>
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It's all about energy...and greed...all the other is a smoke screen...<BR>
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CryingShame
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=96">dragonfleyes</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

i'll attempt to avoid the rant.<BR>
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whomever said that they prefer clinton offer bushy poo, is absolutely right on the target with that one.  clinton at least could conduct himself in foreign affairs, and not  come across as if he is cross referencing the bible.  Foreign policy is one of the most important things that this country was actually based upon.  We are a country made up of every other country, where we have our roots. Who else is more open to immigrants, and offers a land of freedom?  That I think tells us that we are justified in defending other countries of the world.  <BR>
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But somewher along the line it became twisted, and now we have a president who is attempting to revisit a war upon us for the sake of gaining the popularity of a war time president.  <BR>
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As for the Economy during war, yeah, DURING war it can be spectacular, but statistics also show that after war, is when a recession is bound to happen.  Look at history!  Also for everyone driving, and using up the oil and gas that we need to be conserving.  We have popularized such vehicles as the SUV, which is not exactly practical when it comes to gas, and who's to say that carpooling or using mass transit, is not just good for the environment...but obviously good for conservation!<BR>
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alright, that turned into a rant.<BR>
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pascifist out.  
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=96">dragonfleyes</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

i'll attempt to avoid the rant.<BR>
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whomever said that they prefer clinton over bushy poo, is absolutely right on the target with that one.  clinton at least could conduct himself in foreign affairs, and not  come across as if he is cross referencing the bible.  Foreign policy is one of the most important things that this country was actually based upon.  We are a country made up of every other country, where we have our roots. Who else is more open to immigrants, and offers a land of freedom?  That I think tells us that we are justified in defending other countries of the world.  <BR>
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But somewher along the line it became twisted, and now we have a president who is attempting to revisit a war upon us for the sake of gaining the popularity of a war time president.  <BR>
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As for the Economy during war, yeah, DURING war it can be spectacular, but statistics also show that after war, is when a recession is bound to happen.  Look at history!  Also for everyone driving, and using up the oil and gas that we need to be conserving.  We have popularized such vehicles as the SUV, which is not exactly practical when it comes to gas, and who's to say that carpooling or using mass transit, is not just good for the environment...but obviously good for conservation!<BR>
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alright, that turned into a rant.<BR>
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pascifist out.  
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=96">dragonfleyes</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

i really didn't mean to post twice!!!<BR>
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oopsie...<BR>
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forgiven???? :) 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1022">starrgazer</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

&gt;&gt;&gt;star of david&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;...gotta say..I STILL RISE is one of my favs too..for whatever reason i draw some kinda inspiration outta that poem no matter what the situation seems to be..<BR>
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starrgazer
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=717">zero love</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

Bridget O~~ thanks, and from what u just said i honestly don't think the breakup was mutual. <BR>
question! do u think after someone breakups with someone they love do u think its possible 2 still b friends cause i just can't c it espically if that person hurt u.<BR>
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ZeRo LoVe
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=109">Stephen</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

*Sighs*<BR>
dragonfleyes~~ There isn't always a recession after wars, and keep in mind the economy isn't very stable in intervals without war. (though this is hard to find since we have some sort of conflict everywhere)<BR>
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Alright: Short and concise for Cptn. Kirk...<BR>
 Bush is a popularity puppet, just as most presidents in the past, every country in the world looks out for #1 at all times, if otherwise they are performing an act of Tokenism. Most of us go off of biased news sources(all of them, yes especially CNN), most of us are brainwashed, most of us definitely aren't very agnostic at all.<BR>
 The United States isn't being threatened and only brings foreign problems upon itself by slandering other countries who can't fight back in any other means. (aka, we have apache helicopters, they use human bombs. We only care about the bombs.)<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

I don't watch the news or read the paper much. I asked Chris to read my Board comment last night, thinking he'd be impressed. He wasn't. He said my comment was "facile." Ouch. I am not politically-minded. I am a political idiot. But I know enough not to be a proud, trembling-lip flag-waving Republican who screams,"Kill the bastards!" Things are a tad more complex than that. Think on it long and hard. And I don't consider myself an American or a New Mexican. Provincial pride is too PollyAnna/puerile for my taste. I am a citizen of the world. Blah.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=706">splatipus</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

OK, people have to protect their way of life, their freedom. We did that in the first and second world wars, and quite rightly, Hitler was a lunatic. Saddam could be too. But a lot of people were killed in the First and Second World Wars which could possibly have been avoided. This time it could be worse. A lot worse.  Sometimes I feel like Bush is being a bit like a 'Bull in a China Shop' (as the saying goes). <BR>
What I've learnt in my profession - from dealing with certain volatile people - is thatin the long run, gentle persuasion and pointing out the pro's and cons of choices is eventually more effective than screaming and shouting and involves a lot less fighting.<BR>
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Phew...change of topic<BR>
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I notice that theres a lot of 'stars' talk at the moment and that apparently all the planets are in Gemini. I'm a Gemini and I'm wondering if all these planets are the reason that lot of things that may effect my future life are suddenly in the pipeline. Unfortuately Sod's (Murphey's) Law seems to be cruelly playing around with the chance of my (present) dreams coming true. Can anybody who understands these things tell me if there is a possitive outcome predicted?<BR>
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Peeps, I know I havent commented or written much recently, but I've been reading everybodies work daily and you're all fantastic!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=902">spaded</a><BR>
Date: 22 November 2002<P>

Splatipus- Well I know I posted this site reference before, but here goes... WWW.astrologyzone.com.<BR>
This woman is fabulous I love her. Very detailed and totally free. Monthly horoscopes, and very enlightening. Even if you don't believe in this stuff, there are fun things to play around with at this site.<BR>
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Spaded
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