From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=339">jack</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

ah TJ there have been many works of yours i have enjoyed as well as enjoyed you here .... but since i got back from the dry hot and dusty all i can catch of yours is how you are grandstanding on a soap box while engaged in attacks on someone i know and love as well.  there are many truths but right now there is your truth and my truth...which one is correct?<BR>
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B.K. still love ya k?<BR>
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athena... nah i don't mind being grouped as i did get into the discussion but lol i have been here for about two or more years and i know a bit of background from daily delves. some things i stands till i can stands no more lol to almost quote both B.K. and TJ<BR>
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chris i am in full agreement but how do we do all this? you as well as i know there are always ones out there who cant leave a beautiful site alone cause they cant find within themselves the ability to simply share in the wonder.<BR>
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misti i am truly sorry for the attack on you... but there are far more people here who truly enjoy the work you do.  so to have, albeit one rather nasty and snide comment, well the truly gifted attract that type it seems. but just understand that by far people truly love you and your words here<BR>
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Kirk...  still a wonderful place here and im sorry for the extra space used in this<BR>
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luv's <BR>
jack<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=339">jack</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

(lifts that rather heavy rock once more, crawls out)<BR>
<BR>
umm B.K. and TJ if i can get you two to kiss and make up can i make it a video moment ?... a rather loooong one?<BR>
<BR>
(dives back under rock)<BR>
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lol lov's ya<BR>
jack
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1172">Athena</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Chances, Done.  Apologies.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Athena; I own the right to an OPINION around here without being poo pooed or slandered. And if you don't allow me that right, point and counterpoint, I;ll be darned if I'll (sit on my fingers ha) Point Made.....ha<BR>
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Teej; So it's Ro-meow's or anyone elses right to make off handed remarks on a site I love well and not mine to say I think so..Give me a break. Sorry but I have to tell you you're wearing your Intellectual Feng Shui pointed the wrong way.<BR>
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Jack; Kiss and make up YEAH RIGHT! she's got Larry and Moe and oh yes shepp for that. But as for her leaving, she'll stay or morph into another name the same as the last one.<BR>
(whos posts here, as if we don't know)<BR>
<BR>
bk ("I won't back down.")Tom Petty<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1120">Chances</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Athena - Good. You don't need to plagiarise, you are blessed with your own talent. All the best.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1139">jwb71913</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Hmm, all this activity and creative writing and only one post?  <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.10.01.17.40.32263">unmet expectations</a>  It's a splendid one at that!  Aparajita you've done it again.    Jim
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1176">aparajita</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

misti & jim:  thanks guys, i will accept any and all accolades i can get without the least bit of hesitation!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1189">darwin</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

t.j.- I will not read your comments, why??? Because they are entirely too long and lengthy, and that annoys the ever loving crap out of me.  I don't want to read about you defending yourself against someone, I don't want to read your rationlizing your welfare use, and I don't want to know anything else about your personal life!  <BR>
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This is not a place to hear about your daily doldrums and who has suffered what.  It's a given that everyone in life has gone through their own amount of crap.  Just because you have crap doesn't make you special.  And just because someone has slighted you in life doesn't mean that we have to read a thousand word dissertation on why life isn't fair!  It's never fair, get used to it!<BR>
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Sure Kirk isn't the babysitter, but obviously he started this site for a reason, and I'm sure it wasn't so we could all congregate and discuss whose opinion is better than whose.  Live your lives in the real world.   <BR>
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Soapbox off.<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1269">Injun Joe</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Ugh
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">Cryingshame58</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

I read this site for months before I was encouraged to be a part of it...Of what I understand there has always been controversary from time to time between writers and it seems to me that Kirk has warned some when he felt they had crossed a boundary....I find this site the same as any melting pot and not surprised at any human behaviors...This is a great place for anyone to express their opinions and feelings on the board or in their poetry...We can learn and grow from observing, writing or interacting with each other...Some can't/won't tolerate certain personal boundaries, but good things can happen through the controversary...if not...screw it and enjoy life...party on, don't sweat the small stuff...etc...<BR>
Pam<BR>
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PS...had another thought...quote...there's a thin line between love and hate...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1">Kirk, Blender-Keeper</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

H'ok.<BR>
<BR>
Deevaa's probably the most right on; I don't pay strict daily attention to the Blender Board. Usually I try to check in every few days (and new submissions get even less attention--I save those for one big read through after the end of the month.)<BR>
<BR>
I greatly value many of the online relationships I've formed here, but truth be told, I'm really almost on the periphary of the community here.  It's the intersection of--well, not lack of interest, but the Blender has never been my online social nexus (that's been Usenet newsgroups or lately, atariage.com) with a bit of trying to stay "above the fray" as it were.<BR>
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It's a similar approach to my "moderation" of the board; that's an intersection of laziness with not wanting to adopt anti-freespeech stances.<BR>
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Re:  "I reserve the right to remove offensive, off-topic, or nonsensical remarks", the nonsensical probably came from a time when we were getting some very odd, almost DADA-esque posts. Actually, looking back, those were pretty fun and harmless compared to what came later.<BR>
<BR>
When I get home I will remove that stuff from the survey question.<BR>
<BR>
So what would people suggest for moderation? Anyone want to nominate a moderator?
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1139">jwb71913</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Why don't we just ignore nonsensical remarks, and not respond to off topic or offensive remarks?  Censorship is not the same as abiding by the rules, and like it or not, those are the rules.  Reserve your right Kirk.<BR>
<BR>
Jim
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=73">gardenpoet</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

"So what would people suggest for moderation? Anyone want to nominate a moderator?"<BR>
<BR>
May I suggest a committee be formed:<BR>
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Misti, BK, jwb (Jim), jack, TJ Holland, leamas, darwin, and RomanticMechanic.<BR>
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If, after looking at an individual post, they can ALL agree that it is "offensive" or somehow deserving of removal, then go for it.  A consensus/democracy so that the majority does not impinge on the minority.<BR>
<BR>
gp
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1139">jwb71913</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Gardenpoet, I quote "If nominated I will not run, and if elected I will not serve".  Someone help me, was that a General?  I will actually consider belonging to this 'committee', as long as discussion is not posted on board.  I must warn you that I find everyone and everything most offensive.  Jim
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=254">chris</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Funny, gp... Kirk is absolutely correct in his actions, I think. "Controversial" remarks should certainly not be removed (something will ALWAYS offend someone)--but anonymous personal attacks should. I would think--hope?--that you'd feel the same way if someone went at Whitney in such a manner, and then the remark stayed there for weeks. That's all.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=339">jack</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

hmmm ever try to wedge a rcok more firmly down while underneath it?
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=339">jack</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

ah hmmm rock even
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1189">darwin</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

I'd be willing to help moderate, warning, I'm slightly liberal....<BR>
<BR>
here here!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

thanks, Kirk. i appreciate that.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Sorry guys I can't right now, maybe in the future I can take a turn. Mom's doing great and Dad goes in for spinal surgery on Wednesday. Got my fingers crossed that he'll have as much luck as she has had thus far. <BR>
<BR>
bk
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=10">Galadrial</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

WHAT IN THE NAME OF BLUE BLAZES...<BR>
<BR>
Won't pretend I know a thing about this latest foray. I am still chargrained by the days of my own slanging with Misti---who I have ended up liking quite a bit. <BR>
<BR>
But Racist? MISTI??????????<BR>
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Not that I ever saw. And i have been reading her stuff since 98...kind of a long time to hide something like that, you know?<BR>
<BR>
Folks...I have been upside down, and inside out with web stuff...we had a poster here who faked his own death, probably to see if there was an outpouring of sadness. We've had frauds, fakers, fanatics, and all manners of critters you can imagine.<BR>
<BR>
But though the names come and go, shift and change, it's always been a place I returned to---my first poetic home online. I am fine with anyone who does not get in my face with mean...<BR>
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So i hope the bridged are mended, not burned.<BR>
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Peace out...Gala<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=73">gardenpoet</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Galadrial:<BR>
<BR>
shhhh...<BR>
<BR>
The boogeymen may have gone away.<BR>
<BR>
gp
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=268">Misti</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Gala,<BR>
Thank you so much for your kindness. I feel horrible that I haven't sent you a card or a package. I'm being flayed alive right now with job stress and my depression and an uncertain future. But what else is new? I should never forget what few friends I have.<BR>
<BR>
hugs,<BR>
misti
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=436">Jon</a><BR>
Date: 2 October 2003<P>

Wow, haven't been here in awhile I've been busy pretending to be a student.  A few steps closer to graduating and getting a cubicle of my own heh.  Anyway, seems like I tuned in just in time to see another soap box.  Hope you guys work it out, I dunno, I've never been one to take a part in it.  Sooo, with that said:<BR>
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aparajita: <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.10.01.17.40.32263">unmet expectations</a> , great work nice to see I can still come back here and find something that touches me.<BR>
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Anyway, take care everyone.<BR>
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-Jon
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