From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1050">Kase</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

"Beat Me Too"  by Jessica (spelling is as she wrote it, not me)<BR>
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"i know a man who beats a gurl,<BR>
who really makes me hurl.<BR>
how could anyone do anything liek that?<BR>
I would just liek to take a bat,<BR>
and hit him very hard!<BR>
that gurl is now scared for life!<BR>
never feeling safe,<BR>
and can never date again!<BR>
i do not see y she didnt leave you,<BR>
i do not see how she let u do it!<BR>
but if i could just find one guy...one decent guy who thinks he loves me.....<BR>
i would let him beat me too!!"<BR>
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Are the last two lines not disturbing to anyone else here?<BR>
 "Decent guy"<BR>
Jessica, I have defended you in the past, worried about your family situation, and tried to give you some advice about growing up, knowing that teenage years are hard times.<BR>
Still, you are a child.  You haven't reached puberty yet, though you have the foul mouthness of a sailor.  I actually worried about you in the past and wished you and your sister well.  You are twelve years old and honestly, your parents need to use some old fashioned disipline on you.<BR>
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If you are so starved for attention that you would want a guy who "thinks" he loves you (which at 12 years old, you don't know what real love is, and you shouldn't, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT EVEN A TEENAGER YET!!) to beat on you, you have serious problems.  Domestic abuse is not something to want!! What a load of bullshit!!  When a guy that "loves" you beats you down on the ground, slaps you around, forces you to have sex with him, cracks you across your spine with a baseball bat, knocks you out repeatedly, and finally loads a gun and puts it to your head in a small room while your two year old son is in the floor playing at your feet and threatens to kill your child in front of you and then tells you that you're next.....do you think then that you would "let hime beat me too", as your last line says?  Do you think you would want to live with this kind of "love"?  I was raped with the business end of a baseball bat by the man that "loved" me for five years and now I can never have another child.  This same man, when I finally got enough courage to leave him, stalked me for over a year and finally beat his 75 year old Grandma badly and also put a gun point blank to her head.  He, finally is locked away in prison for a good long while.  Does this sound like fun to you? Or love? Don't get your  "I know everything attitude" with me because you don't (and I pray that you never will) have the life experience that I have concerning abuse.  Stick with you Barbie dolls and quit trying to  pretend that you are an adult.  You have plenty of time to grow up and being and adult isn't going to be the fun you think it is.<BR>
It's also quite remarkable that the "new" blender hwl or whatever it's name was just jumped right to your defense--especially since they ironically spell the word "like" as liek.  Not many people beside you do that.  Quit inventing imaginary friends to defend you. <BR>
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Carol--As for you comments, at least you're defending your sister, and that's about the best I can say about it.  How do I know that you're sister hasn't been in an abusive relationship? BECAUSE SHE IS TWELVE FOR GODS SAKE!! Have you not noticed that I'm not the only one tired of children's games here?  You both need to get in school and study and improve yourselves, if possible.  You're the big sister--do you want your little sister to WANT to be hit on?  You're the person she looks up to and learns form, whether you realize or not.  I'm not picking on your sister, execpt to say that both of you need to have your mouths washed out with soap. (Why is it that both of you can spell "fuck, piss, shit', and can't spell anything else?) Where the hell are your parents at?  Why can't you find some other site with people "your level" and your age go?  Would that not be more interesting to both of you?  You actually might "liek" it.  Honestly, it's like the little circle of preteens here constantly need a baby-sitter! Personally a lot of us here are getting tired if baby sitting.  Read through some other people's comments, I'm not alone.  A lot of us here on this board have tried to show concern, offer well wishes, and be friendly with both of you girls, along with some other "youngins" here, and all we have gotten in return are smart ass comments and been reassured by you young wiser people that us adult know nothing and that you have the answers for everything and that we're all just stupid as rocks.  Honestly, Carol, it's really not about age as a number, it's about maturity, and you nor your sister pocess that personality trait.  I've had enough mud slinging, bad grammer (which makes you seem either sloppy or unintelligent) to last me quite a while.  Ther have been lots of good serious writers on the Blender quit submitting and enjoying this site simply because your group gets on people's nerves writing with uneducated grammer, vile language, and unclassy attitude.  It's a shame that talented people who have enjoyed this site for years have to put up with all the drama and bullshit that ties in with the little group that is loitering here.  <BR>
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And as far as minding my own business, I've sat silent, biting my tounge and trying to ignore a lot of junk that has been going on on this site for a while, but when you post it for everyone to read, it becomes my business because you put it in print for the world to read, therefore, it's anyone and everyone that wants to comment on it's business.<BR>
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To everyone else, I apologize for taking up so much space, but I've had it and I'm not sugar coating my opinion.  The childish games that have been played here lately are pure trash.  I've been pushed to my limit with the distractions. Discussions on the board used to be fun and it was great to meet other people that shared the same interests and were serious about writing, but that seems to be disappearing from this site because there's too much juvenille, middle school immaturity getting in the way.  These kids have things in common amongst themselves and there are sites for that, but this isn't one of them.<BR>
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Say what you will, but I have no apologies for my opinion because I'm not ashamed to say that I'm being honest and true to myself.  It's getting to be too much and lines are being crossed.  Everyone else can be polite through clenched teeth, but I'm through gnashing.<BR>
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One more thing Jessica and Carol-- I've had my say and you can have yours, with all the crass and foul mouthed language that you seem to love, but you guys can't be having fun or feel that comfortable here with all the "hints" that have been dropped to you for months.  Do you just stay here to rile people up and try to boost your own high and mighty, misspelled comments?  Is this fun for you?  Carol, I thought that you found a site related to cutting (and I'm not trying to be hurtful about your problem with that, seriously) that had girls in you age group that you could relate to and that you were enjoying.  What happened?  <BR>
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I'm through.<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

"Poetry Clubs": Transcendalists, The Beats, Algonquin Round Table, Cadaques, Romanticists, Victorian; Harry, Cherry and Raquel - get my drift? There is nothing wrong with any group or individuals getting along a bit better and closer and bumping or inspiring one another. Commenting and submitting similar posts may make it seem there is some poetry club conspiracy. Wanna pick on someone, pick me. I've seen far worse in life than arguing over creative license and how to deal with problems in life far beyond a website. I enjoy some comments on my work, but folks seem disinterested in it, or don't care to crit or even ask what the hay I was writing about here. However, the old e-mail boxes get loaded up with comments, so I don't live and breathe on the board. I am an extremely fast typist, quick on my feet when I talk, so commenting and posting here is fast for me. Maybe I should quit? A group consensus (know what that actually means?) could let me know that answer. One or two folks making vague references to what they don't like won't wash with me, but these might make others fear the wrath of commentors here. I've been around Blender reading since it started. I rarely posted a comment until last August when I decided to participate more after some encouragement from old friends. "Participate" meant that I read all the subs and all the comments as they hit the site. I can only do that for a time since I'm healing from medical. I gave the site my honest attention. And, if anyone thinks I post a praise or bravo here to gather my own, think again. As an OPINION, I comment on problems here as a "responsible adult" ... learn the real meaning of that IF you don't understand it already. I praise work here no matter what the age of the poster or their abilities IF it moved me or I want to encourage that poster to stretch a bit more. "Showcase" It has been my experience, and that's extensive, that most new writers will choose not to post at all rather than risk posting at a site where they feel they risk ridicule -- I've been a writer longer than most of the poets here are old. I don't, for a moment, believe that I can write better or be a better human being than anyone here ... remember that, please, if you don't remember anything else about this writer. ANYONE can turn a good line at some time in their lives. SUSH has written something here with the trader's wife that will stay with me for a long time. I look forward to more from him. But others may have only given it a glance. Pam (CryingShame) is doing a marvelous stretch with her wings in writing. Stephen just wrote something with "Surf Girl" that had me thinking about it long after I read it. faichetta wrote something that had me read it again with "that someone". Teej posts some works at times that are very thought-provoking. I kept hoping for an upbeat post from davey after his "Foreboding". I love to see B.K.'s real devotion to her fella. It's damned hard to keep saying "I love you" time after time creatively -- harder than writing about misery. I feed Jim an inch in a line and he takes a mile in poetry. My fella and I are looking forward to meeting him some day soon. Amethyst has written with some reference to the sea with "What is..." so that I look forward to more. And, Chances has grabbed my attention so that I want to see more of her unfold. Misti is someone I have enjoyed watching here because of brutal honesty about herself and others. She gave others here a chance to get to know her better with something she suggested and looks like I was the only one who bit, a shame. She's got great talent, and we'll probably be talking about we "knew her when" someday. Some of my friends are very famous, so I know that it is not some pipe dream for those who really want fame. Leamus, a number of us commented on your works. You come in like a pitbull on a kitten here at the opportunity given. Your pseudo-intellectual comments irk me because I've read enough of you to know you don't have a clue what a real intellectual is .. and most who use that term don't. You've written enough to show you hate yourself and others. Why lurk at a love site? Well, I know why you might. Want to call someone a name, use my subs to lob some venom. Most name-callers usually have had a name like "pseudo-intellectual" junk term tossed at them. Go write something we can praise -- I'd really LIKE to be able to praise you -- no joke! I have no desire to be king of some mountain or last man standing. I'm crew, team player, good friend to folks who will be a friend. Look, I don't care to blow-off steam at anyone here. I already know I can make the meanest son of a gun on this earth tremble. I've faced death myself, lost a child, seen my husband blown-up. What do YOU think you could mess with me with here about? Let us all just write some poetry or prose and quit scaring the new folks off -- OKAY?? Continue the bitch and moans here constantly and this site will wind up like so many others. I believe that the Blender Community as a whole is better than that ..... Rennie
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1120">Chances</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Rennie - Thankyou. Much love to you.<BR>
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Teej - lol. I appreciate honesty too. I never realised you were a mum. Be well.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Amen Rennie and Kase...<BR>
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Teej ~ I am proud of you accomplishments...I can relate...took me ten years to complete my degree, with many obstacles along the way...but I continued and it was well worth the work...good luck...<BR>
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Hopefully we can all get back to writing and stop whining...Jim, you could write a good one about the past few days ;)...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

 The blender has had it's share of disturbances that's for certain. Lots of people here hit and run with no direct e-mail to let them know how disturbing they are and then sometimes they are so distrubed you don't want them to have direct e-mail or any kind of contact with you. Ick honey you wouldn't reach out and touch them with a million mile pole. So we come here to say it.<BR>
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I guess over these two years I've let some of it ride and then jumped in and stirred the pot a little as Sista Gala stated..ha There are some issues you cannot let go of I don't think and like Kase just stated, these kids are very disturbing. They are the issue here, not the one up-manship and who likes who's poetry and who doesn't. Sorry I could friggin give a crap (teej; mine are ivory and come out in twos with ones one them every time.) about any of that. That a twelve or fifteen year old are looking to jerk our chains with dysfunctional writings about sex cutting themselves and being beaten...somehow thats a bit more than it's time I tell you what I really think about you or this is a big clique ha (too funny)<BR>
 I've been here over two years now. I must have missed out on the clique too... but oh well...I either don't care or have missed out entirely on the party ha <BR>
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Kase knows firsthand the real issues here, the rest of us just wish it would go away, or at best that these kids  open their minds and learn something before it's too late.<BR>
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bk
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=927">carol</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

kase..i was nice.. i dident mean to affend u so why be such a bitch? and my dad pays no attention to me and my mom left a while ago...i'm a b,c student.. (as if this has anything to do with it) and it was a poem.. maybe she wasent really talking about what she wanted. did u ever think of that.. and i'm 14.. i do know how abuse feels. so why couldent she? 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1120">Chances</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

To all the Blender teens (you know who you are) - I would like to help out with your daily crises that you bring to a romance writing site and then hit out at anyone who offers a different pov... My teenhood was spent mostly watching my mother slowly get eaten up by cancer... I guess I don't have much of a perspective. I've had enough of your non-romance issues coming onto the board and actually, I've stopped reading your posts, for the most part... you work out the reasons. Some of you have submitted good stuff in the past, a shame how things are working out. I'm taking some timeout on that note - I won't be here to hit back at, so you can call me a coward, or realise that I really love this place and that you should all take a good look at yourselves.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1169">Passion_Painter</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

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Have you ever heard of "Battica" Bats ?<BR>
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You fill them with air (they're made of soft plastic).<BR>
Some psychologists suggest that they be used to release<BR>
pent up hostilities or anger.<BR>
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You hit each other with them -  no one gets hurt -<BR>
and you feel a lot better afterwards.<BR>
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Before they were invented - people used pillows -<BR>
The old proverbial "pillow fight" -<BR>
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Sounds like a solution to me.<BR>
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LOL<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=835">Liz</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Galadrial <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.01.02.04.18294">Say No...a fictional Exhange</a>  was hot, humorous and captivating.  Good work....<BR>
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Empyrean <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.01.05.14.22188">Vent</a>  I think it is empowering to be so in touch with your feelings and to know what is right and wrong for you.  <BR>
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indefensible sushi <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.01.17.58.27104">The Turquoise Trader's Wife: a Letter</a>  is good, and charming.<BR>
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Madison <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.02.10.49.28353">for now</a>  wow! good stuff.<BR>
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Mysteriousone07 <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.02.20.42.7727">Too Much</a>  powerful stuff...and articulated well. <BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=4">tj holland</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Sounds like people are at least being honest. With the right of truth also comes the care and responsibility for our fellow humans. It's a fine balance.<BR>
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-Teej<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=909">leamas</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Wow,<BR>
I haven't seen this much emotion on this sight since, well...never mind, this is the first time I've felt any sign of a pulse.  Tremendous.  RennieLorca, or whatever, I became bored with your written word after your carefully planned first two lines.  I did tread through it though.  Tough as nails, swell.  Impressed, no.  Everyone has problems with none greater than the other.  Sympathy is only given by yourself, for nobody can truly experience your pain.  Nor does anyone want to. Like I said everyone has problems.  No disrespect.<BR>
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These "kids" that are writing this "dribble" are no less important or valid than the rest of you.  Van Gogh (I know I use him a lot) wasn't understood, society didn't grasp his pain but now he is one of the most respected and prized artist ever.  People thought his emotional pain was trivial and quite "childish" but he painted anyways only to SHOOT HIMSELF IN THE FUCKING CHEST.  All because he felt lost, a burden, and completely understood.  <BR>
Challenge their content, not their person.  I have yet to specifically destroy anyone of your works (which would be all too easy), so don't break out with your hypocrisy cannons just yet.<BR>
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Which is better, the immature, ignorant and innocently niave thoughts of a "child" (not that I am convinced of the age) or the self absorbed words of has-beens that continually vomit the same bile (with craftily rubix-cubed words)?  A least their blindness was not chosen.  <BR>
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Those who claim to be wise (RL) are parallel to the real big kid on the playground with a pocket full of milk money and a jaw made of glass.  I don't get impressed easily.<BR>
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Have a good day.  And by the way, I don't care if I mispelled some words.  Spell check is not that important to me.<BR>
Oh and TJ-hello, and BP-as always I worship you and believe you ARE genious.<BR>
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Your eternal fan,<BR>
samael-crazy isn't it.  My name backwards is dangerously close to that of a biblical character.  Funny stuff.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1050">Kase</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

With all the other stuff going on, lemus, leper, whatever you call yourself again, we're all just honored and amazed at amazed to hear from an intellect such as yourself.  I'm trembling from the impact of your opinion! Where do I kneel at again for you to answer the question of life?  It's awfully funny that you keep quiet until you find something to rubberneck at! Thank you for your humble thoughts, now I can sleep better at night.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1050">Kase</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Carol--  Have you realized that maybe, even as harsh as I come across to you, that I don't want you or your little sister to have to go through what I've been through before?  I see you heading for trouble and I want you to open your eyes wide and see that life doesn't have to be that way.  I was as hard headed as you when I was 17, and I ended up with a lot of pain.  I would love to see you guys concentrate on school and education and make something wonderful out of yourself.  I'm just trying to open your eyes, but still let you know that you have to work hard in life to get things to change for the better sometimes, and you have to have patience. I honestly would rather hurt your feelings or make you mad than to see you keep wasting your potential in life.  
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1233">misunderstood</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

I love the comments, they make me laugh.  I really don't write poetry, I just get bored at work and like to keep track of the drama here. My two cents don't mean anything to you people and I could care less about what you think of me.  This place is like a TV station...when I get bored with you all, I will change the station.  Until then, keep up the drama.  Leamas...I read the squirrel thing, your funny.  It seems like you have a true passion for pissing people off...stay strong little root.  bk...relax, its only a web cite.  Rennie, just stick to your writing.  You loose your magesty when you try and eloquently say "fuck off". <BR>
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If you all really just want to write and converse about love poetry...do it. Actually don't stop the bickering, then who would I turn to for entertainment.  <BR>
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Remember, life is like a box of chocolates, and then the fucking birds eat your kids.<BR>
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Bye<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=927">carol</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

kase-i'm glad that u want to help, but calling us imature and shit isent doing anything! i know how it feels! and i know what it can do to someone! age dosent have much to do with what we are able to have gone threw... i'v been threw alot more then some ppl that are 60..and i'm only 14! i do pay attention to my school work i dont know what gave u the idea that i dident.. i never get into trouble and i get good grades! and thank u for in ur last comment showing real concern and not just getting all pissed! honestly!! thanks alot ok! i dont want to affend anyone else,(i'v done that anough) and i dident want u mad or anything!ok? well i am sorry (once again) for affending u or anyone else up here(i have a temper and i know it.. trying to work on it!!)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=943">jessica</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

kase- LOOK U DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ME OR MY FAMILY!!! U DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT WHAT UR SAYING EITHER!! MY POEM IS REALL...I DO KNOW A GURL WHO WAS BEAT, SO I WAS PLAYING AROUND, AND AS FAR AS ME NOT KNOWING WHAT LOVE ITS, FUCK THAT I AM OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW, IM 12 NOT 2!! JUST B CAUSE U DIDNT KNOW IT AT MY AGE DONT MEAN I DONT! AND LEAVE MY SIS THET HELL ANLONE AND THE HRW ISNT ME U FREAK!!! AND I DONT NEED IMAGINARY PPL TO PROTECT ME I SEEM TO BE DOING A GREAT JOB AT THAT!! AND YES I DO KNOW HRW!! WE ARE BEST FRIENDS!!! AND SHE DID THAT WHILE OVA MY HOUSE!! SO U DONT KNOW EVERYTHING!!! AND DONT TELL ME WHAT NOT TO DO!! IF I WANNA THINK I KNWO EVERYTHING THEN I CAN!! AND MY LANGUAGE, IS NONE OF UR BUISSNESS!!! AND YES I MAY BE ONLY TWELVE...AND IN A WAY YES I HAVE BEEN IN AN ABUSIVE RELATION SHIP...NO THERE WAS NO GUNS BUT I WAS HIT!!! SO U DONT KNOW SHIT!!! AND I WILL REPEAT THAT.....U D-O N-O-T K-N-O-W S-H-I-T!! AND YE AI LOOK UP TO CAROL...AND SHE IS DOING GOOD AT BEING MY OLDER SISTER!!WELL I DONT CARE ABOUT YALL TIRE OF US "YOUNGANS" OR WHAT EVER IT WAS THAT U SAID!! I FU DONT LIEK THE STUFF I PUT THEN DONT READ MY STUFF!!! I DONT WRITE IT UP HERE TO PISS N E ONE OFF!! AND IF IT DOSE THEN JUST STAY CLEAR AWAY FROM MY NAME!! IM NOT LIEK MY SIS!! WHEN STUFF GETS SCREWWY LIKE THIS...I JUST DONT FIND ANOTHER SITE!! AND IF U WOULD NOTICE SOMETHING...JUST SEE IF U GET WHAT IM SAYING...I DONT START STUFF UP HERE!! I DONT EVEN WRITE ON THE BORED UNLESS SOMEONE WRITES TO ME FIRST!! SO BASICALLY WHAT I AM SAYING....U DONT WRITE TO/ABOUT ME THEN I WONT WRITE TO/ABOUT U!! AND ABOUT MY SPELLING...I DONT CARE IF IT IS HORRID OR NOT!! LET IT BE THAT WAY!! I CAN READ IT THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS!! SO I DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THAT!! AND LOOK U DONT KNOW AOUT MY SISTER EITHER!! AND IF HER OR I WANT TO CUSS...WHO ARE U TO STOP US?? AND I DO COME HERE TO RIGHT...NOT PLAY!! SO AGAIN U DONT KNOW N E THIGN!! AND I AM NOT SORRY FOR N E THIGN I SAID EITHER...I AM ALSO "JUST BEING TRUTHFULL!!" AND IF CAROL WANTS TO BE ON THIS SITE SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO BE!!!!<BR>
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PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!1
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=943">jessica</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

kase- if u want to open my eyes say that ...dont insult me that is stupid!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=943">jessica</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

everyone- ok i would honestly like everyone to awnser this....ok<BR>
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If you feel the way kase dose that i shouldnt be on this site and taht u do not want me on it please please tell me so i can leave this and dont get no more verbal abuse from kase and others who dont give a shit!!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">cryingshame58</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

leamas & others who are keeping up with this saga,<BR>
<BR>
(my two cents worth)<BR>
<BR>
you remind me of a mixture of Tom Green(e), David Letterman, and my favorite comedian, my son...I am "assuming" (--also can mean that i will make an a-- out of myself)...but anyway,<BR>
I assume that you get a kick out of sparking anger from the serious side of others...some don't understand your sense of humor, but I have learned how to deal with it...I even can find it humorous and sometimes when it is used on myself, although, as a woman...it depends on the time of the month how i react...I have observed that others find it offensive...<BR>
I have observed that this message board is like with any group of people...and if you have ever served on a jury...this one could get "hung"...<BR>
Enough said from silly ole me...<BR>
CS58 (pam)<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">CryingShame58</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

hey and did anyone like the singing horses?
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">cryingshame58</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Leamas,<BR>
<BR>
Sam·u·el (s²m“y›-…l) n. Bible. 1. Hebrew judge and prophet of the 11th century B.C. who anointed Saul as king. 2. Abbr. Sam., S<BR>
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or is my source wrong?<BR>
<BR>
CryingShame58
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1246">hrw</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

My name is Hannah, i am 20 years old, i have a daughter and recentally i have went out w/ someone and that person threatend to kill me! im not imaginary i have a body and i breath the same air that u do! the poem that jesse wrote that seemed the piss u off so badly was about me. i know that jesse writes poems from her heart, and she would never right them to hurt anybody. I was the 1 that taught jesse hot to type and that is y we both use "liek" in that way!! i dont want to here your mouth running about the way i type either. because i grew up in a rough house and im lucky that i even learned how to type! and as for jesse not reaching puberty, yes she has!!! she has had it for almost a year. yea i do stick up for her b cause i love her like a sister and i dont like people treating her bad. and as for the parents u asking her where they are, her dad dosnt give a flying flip of a ducks tail what she dose and her mom left!! so that probably really hurt her!!hrw
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=902">spaded</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

It has been forever since i have been here, and i always read the  board first. Good way to get a heads up to poems that lots of people have enjoyed. I tend to read my favorites and than check those out. Time is so precious these days.<BR>
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So here I am, haven't gotten to the new posts yet, and already i feel the need to throw in my 2 cents worth...<BR>
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Kase, jessica has a point, in if you would like to help, don't "disguise" it in an insult. <BR>
It is also not fair for you to assume that just because she is young, she has no experience in what she writes about. Plenty of children are beaten every day. Read the reports, violence among children is far from uncommon. In fact it is on an alarming rise in children of middle school age, in serious relationships.<BR>
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Over and above all that, you speak of her home life, which I know nothing about. Is it possible she is comparing a friends abusive "love" relationship with a domestic violence situation at home. It is poetry and people write in ways that may not be similar to your own.<BR>
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Also remember back to when you were twelve. Your feelings of love, no matter how much you laugh at them now, were very real to you at that point in time. Just as they are real for Jessica now.<BR>
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I am sorry for what you have been through, but don't make the mistake of thinking that no one else has ever been in a comparable situation just because you are older. In fact it might take a lot less to scare the beejeebies out of a 12 year old child. What amounts to just a slap to you could be comparable to "I thought he was going to kill me" to a child. Either way, no matter how "trivial" or how "serious" it is all wrong. No one deserves to be abused. Having been in the situation yourself, you certainly would not want anyone telling you, your feelings were wrong. It was no big deal, or that it didn't happen the way you said it did. Why would you want to do that to a child.<BR>
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No ones opinion is right or wrong, but before you type them out, make sure you are saying what you mean to say. Especially make sure you have tought it out, and mean what you say.<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=392">Kindred_Spirit49</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Man.... there is some great poerty  being posted, is anyone reading them??? LOL
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

The problem is that this has been going on for months now and it's getting pretty sickening. I vote we put the whole group that make us crazy on IGNORE!!!! Then maybe when they see that they will get no SYMPATHY, no Poor Pitiful Pearl act they will probably go away. Just leave your e-mail addresses and we will report you to the social services you might need. I am sure there must be some blender shrink out there that would love you as clients or some doctor that would love to give you DRUGS to make you smile forever. They want to give it to three year olds so you all more than qualify. This is a love site, you need to look that up in your Funk and Wagganals to see what that means and how to spell it as well.  Yes Jessica, Carol and the gang I vote you go away, this site is not helping either your ENGLISH or your ability to type nor your manners which are sorely lacking. You have been here more than long enough to see whats going on here and you either don't care or enjoy the mayhem. I vote you get the hell outta dodge or the bullets will keep flying or we will ignore you until you write something decent and worth commenting on. 
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">cryingshame58</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

So no one appreciates singing horses?  that's a cryingshame!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=436">Jon</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Gala~<a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.01.02.04.18294">Say No...a fictional Exhange</a>, spicy? YES. :)<BR>
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Take care<BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=927">carol</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

b.k-i dont dislike u.. and i love some of ur work.. but ur not being fair.. i dont really care if no one reads what i write or if u dont comment or anything.. i only write b/c i just like u have feelings that i sometimes need to put down. and u are picking on the worlds youth.. like it or not.. we will rule someday.. so i sugest that u learn to love us!!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=960">Cattie</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

I've been reading alot of the stuff that is going on up here and I must admit I was a part of the Kid crowd. I also used to spell as some of them did if you look at some of my earlier poems.  I'm not really sure if I am included in the "cutting" crowd becuase I have never really done that, But I was going through a tough time and I used to be friends with some of the people here that did it. I thought it would be a good solution. I soon realized it wasn't before I did anything to myself.  I did take some of the adults advice and leave becuase I knew that the site was not really some where, where the poems I was writing should be placed.  I have now started a notebook that I write in. I believe I usually tried to watch my language in the things I wrote, so I don't think I was associated with that either. <BR>
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Really, what I'm trying to say is, though some may not realize it yet, your criticism will sink in, whether it be good or bad.  Many of you have helped me mature and feel better about myself. I appreciate it greatly. And even though I wasn't writing on the subject, I'm very glad I "met" the adults here because you are wonderful people wtih great advice.  Keep it up. And thanks to all of you.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Kids; What Lemas wrote makes perfect sense. He has his shingle out, The Dr is in and you should all e-mail him and get his help...YES! But remember you have to love squirrels and nuts. <BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Carol and Cattie and Yes Jessica too; Geeze guys, you make me feel like Linda Blair with her head spinning and green puke coming out. You are absolutely right and I do have more compassion and caring than you know. Probably much too much which is why it's hard for me to see what you write here. It's so much easier to just wish it would go aways and that's not right at all. I haven't set a good example of a caring adult and that is not me at all. My sons friends camped out at my house growing up, always had a meal if they needed it, a place to sleep, and an ear to bend. They stretched out my couch so much I gave it to them when my son left home. <BR>
  Jessica, your last poem touched me, if you are truly a child there is help out there and caring adults. But the net being such as it is there are lots of adults playing head games and easily fooling bleeding hearts such as mine. For all I know you could be some alien stirring up trouble or an adult with nothing better to do than make people like me write you love notes ha. If you are a child there has to be someone that will help you where you are. Your anger will only hurt you more. Find help. <BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Carol and Cattie and Yes Jessica too; Geeze guys, you make me feel like Linda Blair with her head spinning and green puke coming out. You are absolutely right and I do have more compassion and caring than you know. Probably much too much which is why it's hard for me to see what you write here. It's so much easier to just wish it would go aways and that's not right at all. I haven't set a good example of a caring adult and that is not me at all. My sons friends camped out at my house growing up, always had a meal if they needed it, a place to sleep, and an ear to bend. They stretched out my couch so much I gave it to them when my son left home. <BR>
  Jessica, your last poem touched me, if you are truly a child there is help out there and caring adults. But the net being such as it is there are lots of adults playing head games and easily fooling bleeding hearts such as mine. For all I know you could be some alien stirring up trouble or an adult with nothing better to do than make people like me write you love notes ha. If you are a child there has to be someone that will help you where you are. Your anger will only hurt you more. Find help. <BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=13">B.K.</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Carol honey, it's not likely my generation will ever have anything to worry about from yours. Get over yourself there honey. Read and learn, that's how you will get ahead in life. Knowledge is the only thing in life they can't take away from you. If you don't remember anything else I say remember that.<BR>
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bk
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=4">tj holland</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

i SPY with my little eye, someone WHO is COLD. i just CAME in to say hello. forget samuel. <BR>
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LOL!<BR>
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Always have appreciated your humor. And a good red herring can be satisfying every once in a while. <BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1050">Kase</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Spaded-- The way Jessica's poem read, it was not about a mother or father hitting a child.  It was about a girl being hit by a boyfriend.  That's where I drew my information from.  I've tried every other approach, being kindly and sweetly saying the same things to these girls and it seemed to have no effect.  Sometimes tough love is the only thing that works.  I want these girls to have and do better for themselves than I did and I figured that if the ugly truth was put in black and white and maybe the shock value would get through, but I guess I was wrong.<BR>
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Jessica--You need to read everything I wrote and realize that I'm not just trying to down you or piss you off.  You waqnt to be an adult and conversate with grown ups here, so check your maturity level.  Don't automatically snap to hot headed decisions and confuse what I'm trying to get through to you.  You're still a child at twelve and I'm trying to get you to look at where you're headed in life and not make major mistakes and get hurt any worse than you've already been.<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=392">Kindred_Spirit49</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Cryingshame~~ I liked the horses, the one in the middle not only looks like me, but sings like me...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Carol~ I checked out gurl.com you mentioned. Have you enjoyed the site so far? ..... Rennie
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1139">jwb71913</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

<a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.01.02.04.18294">Say No...a fictional Exhange</a>   <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.02.12.32.24838">Surf Girl</a> <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.02.08.47.7933">hideaway</a>   <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.01.17.58.27104">The Turquoise Trader's Wife: a Letter</a> <BR>
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Oh yes, some great poetry kindred, thanks for reminding me.  I like this one too.  <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.02.16.41.1476">I ask you not to go….</a>  Defenseless.<BR>
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Jim
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1176">aparajita</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

I LOVED THE HORSES....  SORRY THAT THE 'DRAMA' HAS KEPT ME FROM POSTING THAT!!  THE BIGGEST LAUGH SINCE THE 'BLAHS' HIT ME SQUARE IN THE GUT!!!<BR>
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THANKS FOR SHARING THE HORSES, WE NEEDED THAT!
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Cryingshame ~ loved the horses...thank you for sharing that...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Cryingshame ~ loved the horses...thank you for sharing that...
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

kindred ~ I ask you not to go…...beautiful <BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1139">jwb71913</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

<a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.03.19.14.12840">To Blender Hell (Cheers!)</a>   I'll drink to that, make mine a double.
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=872">Cryingshame58</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Jim and BK,<BR>
Yall (southern plural for "you") are so funny with your latest submits...I was looking for a laugh and finally found it from yall!  <BR>
aparajita, ladyinwaiting, kindred...<BR>
Glad that you liked the horses...I used them as my screen saver the last 15 minutes of my work day...My days and nights are more stressful than usual and i am looking for humor to lighten the load...<BR>
CS58
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1103">ladyinwaiting</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

cryingshame ~ yes I am sorry to hear of you loss...hope you and your family are dealing with the stress...and I agree with you one the latest submits from jim and bk...way to funny...thanks you all (another southern saying!!)<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Cattie~ <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.04.26.18.33.22608">Life's little wonders</a> we are all human, with all the strengths and frailities. Glad to see you noticed something about your mom in this piece. Tell your mother what you didn't mind sharing with strangers. You'll find she will not only be your mother, but maybe your best friend as you mature. It is often hard to start a line of communication, but rewarding. Your feelings are important. They are just as strong as an adult's as you become a teen. How to handle situations come with experience. Most adults, especially those here, just want to see that you don't have bad experiences ... hence the advice. Love and romance writers are usually very passionate about life. I hope you understand this. You seem to. Anyone who has depression can wind up with "chronic depression" in life, so it's best to find ways to stay happy and productive. You've shown real maturity in your latest statement in comments. I'm proud of you, and don't mind telling you that. I'm sure others here are also. We'll enjoy seeing you stretch your wings as a writer, then brag on you ..... Rennie <BR>
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=17">deevaa</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Misti, Heya you!<BR>
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I thought you'd disappered offline into the big wide real world, didn't think you where around anymore, what a nice surprise. :-)<BR>

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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=821">Becky</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

I've been enjoying the blender and all of it's wonderful poetry and wonderful people for many years. I've kept quiet and never said anything. I didn't even start submitting my work until last year. I hate to see the way things have been lately. I hate to see all the arguing and the hatefullness. But I'm not going to rant on about it. I hope everything can return to normal soon. I thought it was finally time for me to express my appreciation to all of you. I have loved all of the poetry and the passion that you have put into it. The poems have helped me through some rough times... cheered me up... and inspired me in ways that I can't even describe! Just wanted to say THANK YOU!<BR>
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P.S. <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.03.19.14.12840">To Blender Hell (Cheers!)</a> LOVE IT! ;)
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=1223">Butterfly03</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Rennie~ I have to be honest, I am curious of what your take is on <a href="/blend/wv.cgi?id=2003.06.03.18.31.18608">Mongoose</a>, please let me know! ;}<BR>
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Dylan Kwiatkowski~ Do you still visit the Blender?? Your work is what inspired me to post in the Blnder also. So, I was simply wondering why you haven't posted anything recent?  
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From: <a href="/blend/av.cgi?id=900">RennieLorca</a><BR>
Date: 3 June 2003<P>

Butterfly~ I read it twice yesterday after it was submitted. I really like the boldness of the last four lines ... and had already made note of them for the next post I did about work I enjoyed here recently. Thanks for asking ..... Rennie
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